Re: [rfc-i] Hebrew contact information example in RFC 7997

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Fri, 20 January 2017 17:54 UTC

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Julian,

> On Jan 20, 2017, at 1:35 AM, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> On 2017-01-20 09:33, Martin J. Dürst wrote:
>> On 2017/01/20 16:39, Julian Reschke wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> the PDF version of RFC 7997
>>> (<https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7997.pdf>) has this example (when
>>> copied character-wise into mail):
>>> 
>>>> Additional contact information:
>>>> רנו י א ן ב
>>>> ו ו א ו וי
>>>> 1 ד ו ד ה למ ך 4
>>>> 6 4 9 5 ת ל א ביב 3
>>>> י שר
>>> 
>>> The HTML version of the last published draft
>>> (<https://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-iab-rfc-nonascii-02.html#n-address-information>)
>>> 
>>> has:
>>> 
>>>> Alternate contact information:
>>>>   רוני אבן
>>>>  וואווי
>>>>  דוד המלך 14
>>>>  תל אביב 64953
>>>>  ישראל
>>> 
>>> Is this a glitch in the PDF or an intentional change?
>> 
>> I see the same characters in both documents, in the same visual order.
>> In your fragments above, it looks (in my mailer) like some character
>> pairs were inverted.
>> 
>> In my viewer (Acrobat Reader on Windows 8.1) at least, the alignment in
>> the PDF is bad.
>> 
>> What exactly are you worried about?
> 
> Looking at it once again, I agree.
> 
> So, to summarize:
> 
> - use of RTL scripts is an additional challenge :-)
> 
> - the alignment in the PDF is broken (not only because of the use of a non-monospace hebrew font)
> 

My Hebrew is very rudimentary, but least in my mail program, the html has the country name correct

ישראל

but the pdf does not:

י שר

The pdf on the rfc-editor and tools site, has all of the characters, but the formatting is poor.

Bob

p.s. I forwarded this to someone I know is a Hebrew speaker, hopefully he will respond.




> Best regards, Julian
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