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Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 30 March 2022 02:15 UTC

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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:14:53 +1300
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Subject: Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IETF work (was: Re: Chair/datatracker tracking expired WG documents ?)
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Well, that was what the tao-discuss list was set up for, and I
confess that I left that list a long time ago. However, judging
by https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/tao-discuss/, there
hasn't been much substantive discussion there**, and (as often
observed) design-team style work on GitHub does not in any way
approach a community consensus process.

So, for this fairly important chunk of our web site, can we please
have a diff to look in some digestible format, and some community
review? If that happens on tao-discuss, I'd be happy to rejoin.

Regards
    Brian Carpenter

** 119 messages since July 2012


On 30-Mar-22 15:00, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
> I fear I am missing something in the process.  Is there a procedure for
> community or IESG review of the text before it goes live?
> 
> Yours,
> Joel
> 
> On 3/29/2022 5:47 PM, Salz, Rich wrote:
>>>      These couple of sentences in the Tao are actually from RFC2026 and about the transient state of I-Ds.
>>
>> In fact, the current version of the Tao (maintained at https://github.com/ietf/tao) doesn't have that language, but instead just points to BCP 9. Phrases like "work in progress" are also removed, pointing to BCP 9.
>>
>> We only just finished editing/merging before IETF 113, and there wasn't time to update the website.  Please take a look at the GitHub repo and see if the language there needs to be fixed.
>>
>> I think Valery's point got lost :(
>>
>>
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