Re: [rfc-i] Update on the CSS - second round

Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Wed, 22 February 2017 02:06 UTC

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From: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 13:05:58 +1100
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To: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" <rse@rfc-editor.org>
Subject: Re: [rfc-i] Update on the CSS - second round
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On 21 February 2017 at 17:52, Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)
<rse@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> https://rfc-format.github.io/draft-iab-rfc-css-bis/

Hi Heather,

I checked these out on phone (with a decently large screen), desktop,
and print preview.  These are all massive improvements and you seem to
have found good resolutions to the issues I raised, thanks.

I don't think that the change to use Javascript for the table of
contents on narrow views is an improvement.  It effectively removes
the TOC from the document.  As a regular reader of these things, I
need to see the table of contents.  Having to click or tap ruins that,
especially since the button is on the very edge of what I can easily
hit with my fat digits.

On narrower screens, leaving the TOC inline (where it would otherwise
appear in the text version) is better.  The little hamburger icon
could then be a link to the TOC.  That wouldn't require Javascript
either, though that's not my overriding concern.

The other issues that I saw were all problems with the source.  For
instance, the double-comma Brian observed was in the HTML source and
easily corrected.  The precis document also uses something that
appears to be a badly formatted definition list in the IANA
considerations, but that turns out to be straightforward text with
irregular spacing.
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