Re: [rfc-i] getting heads up on RFC-editor state for a draft

Jean Mahoney <jmahoney@amsl.com> Wed, 23 March 2022 11:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rfc-i] getting heads up on RFC-editor state for a draft
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Hi Carsten,

On 3/22/22 5:14 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> On 22. Mar 2022, at 22:44, Jean Mahoney <jmahoney@amsl.com> wrote:
>> [1] Things are moving fairly quickly at the moment -- the average number of weeks in EDIT and RFC-EDITOR states is 1.7 and 1.2, respectively:  https://www.rfc-editor.org/reports/CurrQstats.txt
> Hi Jean,
>
> this is amazing.
>
> I used to take the transition to RFC-EDITOR state as my scheduling hint, but then there was a period when that started to take months (and of course not pure FIFO, so there was little predictive value).
> Great to see we are back to a *very* short queue!
>
> Beyond the author time scheduling issue, it is also interesting to see the actual AUTH48 time-so-far distribution (3.2 median, 8 average! Long-tailed indeed.) and AUTH48-DONE as well (5 and 13.5!).
> These statistics don’t tell me how many of the latter dominating the 13.5 week (1/4 year) average are waiting for other documents to complete, but I guess that is most of them — the unproblematic ones are already published and don’t lower the average.

[JM] You're right about the standalone RFCs: they don't linger in 
AUTH48-DONE. For these documents, AUTH48-DONE is for updating any IANA 
registries if needed and performing final checks before publishing, and 
these steps go pretty quickly. The documents with long AUTH48-DONE times 
are cluster docs waiting for other documents in their cluster to finish 
AUTH48.

The list of active clusters and their document states can be found here: 
https://www.rfc-editor.org/all_clusters.php

Currently there are 22 active clusters, with 16 of those having at least 
one MISSREF.

Best regards,

Jean

>
> (The average MISSREF weeks (one year!) show a fundamental problem with normative references, but that is a much more complicated process issue.)
>
> Grüße, Carsten
>

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