[rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode
pkyzivat at alum.mit.edu (Paul Kyzivat) Fri, 23 January 2015 18:53 UTC
From: "pkyzivat at alum.mit.edu"
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 13:53:05 -0500
Subject: [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode
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On 1/23/15 1:39 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Jan 23, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat at alum.mit.edu> wrote: >> Different strokes for different folks. > > That's the problem. Sean is asking for a one-size-fits-all approach, without suggesting actual examples of a proposed solution. > >> This *can* work. > > By "work", I think of "is the solution understandable to a typical Internet Draft author", and here things fall apart. It is possible to mark artwork as a fragment; it may not be possible to sanely say what it is a fragment of. Many RFCs have multiple ABNF modules or ASN.1 modules, so there would have to be some way to say "this is a fragment of that module" *and* say "and the whole goes in this particular order". > >> It would work much better if you could automatically extract the collection of fragments when you want to process it. > > Fully agree. If we can come up with a way to help that automation while not confusing document authors, this seems worthwhile. However, complexity seems to be a negative here. As I suggested earlier, the simplest thing I can think of here would be specify that if multiple artwork elements have the same name attribute, then the expectation is that they should be concatenated when extracted. Then, as long as you specify the same type for all the elements with the same name, a verifier for that type can process it. If you have a number of independent ABNF modules, then just give them different names. Thanks, Paul
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Sean Leonard
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Julian Reschke
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Paul Kyzivat
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Nico Williams
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Paul Kyzivat
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Nico Williams
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Paul Kyzivat
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Paul Hoffman
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Paul Kyzivat
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Nico Williams
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Sean Leonard
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Nico Williams
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Ted Lemon
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Paul Kyzivat
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Paul Kyzivat
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Ted Lemon
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Nico Williams
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Nico Williams
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Paul Kyzivat
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Paul Kyzivat
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Nico Williams
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Nico Williams
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Sean Leonard
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Julian Reschke
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Julian Reschke
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Paul Kyzivat
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Sean Leonard
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Ted Lemon
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Sean Leonard
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Julian Reschke
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Julian Reschke
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Paul Kyzivat
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Sean Leonard
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Paul Kyzivat
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Sean Leonard
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Nico Williams
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Nico Williams
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Sean Leonard
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Nico Williams
- [rfc-i] [Json] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourc… Nico Williams
- [rfc-i] [Json] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourc… Bjoern Hoehrmann
- [rfc-i] [Json] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourc… Sean Leonard
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Sean Leonard
- [rfc-i] ABNF Core Rule extensions Paul Kyzivat
- [rfc-i] ABNF Core Rule extensions Dave Crocker
- [rfc-i] ABNF Core Rule extensions Nico Williams
- [rfc-i] ABNF Core Rule extensions Dave Crocker
- [rfc-i] [Json] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourc… Bjoern Hoehrmann
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Bjoern Hoehrmann
- [rfc-i] ABNF Core Rule extensions Julian Reschke
- [rfc-i] ABNF Core Rule extensions Bjoern Hoehrmann
- [rfc-i] ABNF Core Rule extensions Julian Reschke
- [rfc-i] ABNF Core Rule extensions Bjoern Hoehrmann
- [rfc-i] ABNF Core Rule extensions Julian Reschke
- [rfc-i] [Json] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourc… Sean Leonard
- [rfc-i] ABNF Core Rule extensions Dave Crocker
- [rfc-i] ABNF Core Rule extensions Paul Kyzivat
- [rfc-i] ABNF Core Rule extensions Sean Leonard
- [rfc-i] ABNF Core Rule extensions Julian Reschke
- [rfc-i] ABNF Core Rule extensions Dave Crocker
- [rfc-i] ABNF Core Rule extensions Paul Kyzivat
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Paul Kyzivat
- [rfc-i] ABNF Core Rule extensions Dave Crocker
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Bjoern Hoehrmann
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Paul Kyzivat
- [rfc-i] ABNF Core Rule extensions Paul Kyzivat
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Bjoern Hoehrmann
- [rfc-i] ABNF Core Rule extensions Dave Crocker
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Riccardo Bernardini
- [rfc-i] ABNF Core Rule extensions Sean Leonard
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Paul Kyzivat
- [rfc-i] v3imp #8 Fragment tagging on sourcecode Paul Kyzivat