Re: [rfc-i] New proposal/New SOW comment period

Michael StJohns <msj@nthpermutation.com> Tue, 03 September 2019 03:17 UTC

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From: Michael StJohns <msj@nthpermutation.com>
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Subject: Re: [rfc-i] New proposal/New SOW comment period
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On 9/2/2019 6:31 PM, Adam Roach wrote:
> On 9/2/19 2:24 PM, Michael StJohns wrote:
>> On 8/30/2019 3:39 PM, Sarah Banks wrote:
>>> Hi Mike,
>>> Some thoughts, inline. Speaking for myself. SB//
>>
>>
>> Not really.  Seriously - you're the author of the SOW with the RSOC 
>> so this is direct commentary on your work product.
>>
>
> I suspect that what she means (since I've made similar disclaimers in 
> the past and have seen many others do so as well) is that she's 
> speaking without yet consulting with the RSOC or IAB on the related 
> topics, so as to avoid confusion between her perspective and the 
> consensus position of either of those bodies. If you have a proposal 
> for a better way to phrase that kind of thing, I would love for you to 
> offer it up.
>
> /a
>
Fair point, and I can see that's probably what was meant.

The problem is that doing that is somewhat an abdication of the 
responsibility for the SOW.  I would have said something more like:  
"Here's my opinion - I'll ask the rest of the RSOC to chime in as well", 
rather than the "speaking for myself" construct. Or "I'll make sure the 
RSOC considers these, but I think I agree with XXXX and disagree with 
YYY and here's why".

Someone has to be willing to take and manage the commentary - if not 
Sarah, then who?    (I don't really care who - I just want to know who 
gets to decide what goes into the next version and how I affect that 
decision).

"Success has many fathers, failure is an orphan".  I'd really like this 
not to be an orphan.

Later, Mike


Later, Mike

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