Re: [rfc-i] contributors section & tools

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 07:23:51PM +0100, Adrian Farrel wrote:
> I just looked at RFC 8663.
> Long list of Contributors. Jari appears to extract them OK.
> 
> The XML for 8663 is available in the datatracker.

Thanks!
> 
> I see that the RPC elected to use my magic formatting which has the whole
> section presented as <artwork> to get the format correct.

Sounds like Jari is probably scraping the txt output. Fine.

> Not sure whether xml2rfc v3 has special tags for contributors. If so, that
> would solve the problem.

Scanning through rfc7991 there seems to be no enhancements in this respect.

Cheers
    Toerless

> A
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Toerless Eckert' <tte@cs.fau.de> 
> Sent: 15 July 2020 19:13
> To: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
> Cc: -interest@rfc-editor.org; tools-discuss@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [rfc-i] contributors section & tools
> 
> Thanks, Adrian
> 
> Any example XML for which you're aware that the contributor section was
> correctly parsed, then
> i will just clone that formatting. I do like the idea to format with all the
> same contact
> info as if the contributors where authors, but thats just for emphasizing
> for human readers,
> not for a poor script.
> 
> Cheers
>     Toerless
> 
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 07:04:35PM +0100, Adrian Farrel wrote:
> > I believe Jari's script attempts to do this and counts Contributors in the
> > author stats it generates
> > 
> > The script is very vulnerable to formatting errors and since the
> > Contributors section is usually hand-crafted, the script often misses
> people
> > or documents.
> > 
> > Jari always welcomes fixes to the scripts. Last I looked there were lots
> of
> > "IF RFC=abcd THEN make this special exception"
> > 
> > A
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rfc-interest <rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org> On Behalf Of
> > Toerless Eckert
> > Sent: 15 July 2020 18:41
> > To: tools-discuss@ietf.org; rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org
> > Subject: [rfc-i] contributors section & tools
> > 
> > Is there any tool from e.g.: the IETF or Arkko publishing houses that
> > actually deparses names
> > in a contributors section and does something with that information ?
> > (aka: allows recognition stats like they are done for authors) ?
> > 
> > I could not find anything in RFC 7749 that would allow me semantic tagging
> > of contributors,
> > Am i wrong ?
> > 
> > If not, then parsing would have to be difficult and heuristic, and i
> > therefore fear the answer to my
> > above question is NO ?
> > 
> > Wasthere not a time when we wanted to make contirbutors better
> recognizeable
> > ?
> > 
> > Thanks
> >     Toerless
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