Re: [rfc-i] Fixing names in references to old RFCs

"Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com> Thu, 18 February 2021 05:16 UTC

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From: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 00:15:43 -0500
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To: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
Subject: Re: [rfc-i] Fixing names in references to old RFCs
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Martin,

If we positively know that the name was mangled, then we should use the
correct name in references. And we should also make sure that an errata has
been filed, and all metadata regarding the RFC has the correct name.

Just out of curiosity, did this RFC precede the AUTH48 process?

Cheers,
Andy


On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 11:58 PM Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> wrote:

> With RFC 7997, we can now include people's names in RFCs.
>
> But we didn't used to.  I have a document that cites an older RFC where
> one of the authors had their name mangled.  What do people here think about
> correcting the mangling when referencing that document from a newer RFC?
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