Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IETF work (was: Re: Chair/datatracker tracking expired WG documents ?)
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Subject: Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IETF work (was: Re:
Chair/datatracker tracking expired WG documents ?)
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I fear I am missing something in the process. Is there a procedure for community or IESG review of the text before it goes live? Yours, Joel On 3/29/2022 5:47 PM, Salz, Rich wrote: >> These couple of sentences in the Tao are actually from RFC2026 and about the transient state of I-Ds. > > In fact, the current version of the Tao (maintained at https://github.com/ietf/tao) doesn't have that language, but instead just points to BCP 9. Phrases like "work in progress" are also removed, pointing to BCP 9. > > We only just finished editing/merging before IETF 113, and there wasn't time to update the website. Please take a look at the GitHub repo and see if the language there needs to be fixed. > > I think Valery's point got lost :( > > _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://mailman.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest
- [rfc-i] ****SPAM**** 3rd party SDO cross-referenc… 'Toerless Eckert'
- Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IE… Joel M. Halpern
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- Re: [rfc-i] ****SPAM**** Re: 3rd party SDO cross-… Salz, Rich
- Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IE… Joel Halpern Direct
- [rfc-i] ****SPAM**** Re: Re: 3rd party SDO cross-… 'Toerless Eckert'
- Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IE… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IE… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IE… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] [irsg] Re: 3rd party SDO cross-refere… Melinda Shore
- Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IE… BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
- Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IE… Keith Drage
- Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IE… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IE… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IE… BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
- Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IE… Salz, Rich
- [rfc-i] Tao [3rd party SDO cross-referencing of I… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] Tao [3rd party SDO cross-referencing … Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [rfc-i] Tao [3rd party SDO cross-referencing … Robert Sparks
- Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IE… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IE… Brian E Carpenter
- [rfc-i] Normatively referencing I-Ds. (Re: 3rd pa… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IE… Salz, Rich
- Re: [rfc-i] Tao [3rd party SDO cross-referencing … Salz, Rich
- Re: [rfc-i] Tao [3rd party SDO cross-referencing … Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [rfc-i] Tao [3rd party SDO cross-referencing … Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [rfc-i] Tao [3rd party SDO cross-referencing … Salz, Rich
- Re: [rfc-i] Tao [3rd party SDO cross-referencing … Tim Wicinski
- Re: [rfc-i] Tao [3rd party SDO cross-referencing … Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [rfc-i] Tao [3rd party SDO cross-referencing … Salz, Rich
- Re: [rfc-i] Normatively referencing I-Ds. (Re: 3r… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] Tao [3rd party SDO cross-referencing … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] Tao [3rd party SDO cross-referencing … Salz, Rich
- Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IE… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IE… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IE… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IE… Salz, Rich
- Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IE… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] 3rd party SDO cross-referencing of IE… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)