Re: [rfc-i] document dependence, was Meta decorations in generated HTML

John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Sat, 28 May 2022 23:05 UTC

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Date: Sat, 28 May 2022 19:05:15 -0400
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Subject: Re: [rfc-i] document dependence, was Meta decorations in generated HTML
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John,

Thanks for your patience.  I, unfortunately, have not had time
to read every posting on this list carefully and, when I get
overextended, sometimes do not follow it for weeks at a time.
Glad part of the question was useful and thanks for the answer
to that.

best,
   john


--On Saturday, May 28, 2022 18:15 -0400 John Levine
<johnl@taugh.com> wrote:

> It appears that John C Klensin  <john-ietf@jck.com> said:
>> John, Eliot,
>> 
>> Combining the recent exchange about large code blocks and
>> stability with Eliot's comment about tracking policy sources,
>> a question: how does additional tagging interact with
>> long-term stability/archival issues?  If the answer is that
>> this is a matter of what gets generated for the HTML version
>> only and that the XML is not affected at all, I suppose it is
>> not an issue.
> 
> As I thought I said several times, it is in the HTML only.
> Both the tags Scholar uses and the OG tags have been stable
> for at least a decade.
> 
>> But the conversation about intentionally stable URLs and
>> hosting images at the datatracker at ticket 776 caused me to
>> wonder. One of the ways of looking at the RFC stability
>> problem is to ask whether, if the IETF were to implode and
>> the entire tree of names and associated files and data
>> vanish, would documents and all of their content still be
>> accessible and usable without editing or hunting expeditions?
> 
> Good questions. The text version is text, the PDF is PDF/A-3
> which should render in any compatible PDF viewer. RFC 7992
> says 
> 
>       The HTML document will be self-contained, without
> requiring       external files for images, CSS, JavaScript, or
> the like.
> 
> But in fact the rendered HTML includes
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/js/metadata.min.js, and imports
> three fonts from Google. I think the HTML will display legibly
> if none of those are available but I haven't checked.
> 
> R's,
> John


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