Re: [rfc-i] draft-kuehlewind-update-tag/

Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Fri, 27 March 2020 22:45 UTC

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> On Mar 27, 2020, at 3:03 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 27-Mar-20 16:48, Joseph Touch wrote:
> ...
>>>> 
>>>> Draft-tsvwg-udp-options - does what?
>>>>    - it extends UDP with options
>>>>    - but it also alters UDP to prohibit UDP length values that 786 allows
>>>> 
>>>> Is that extends or emends?
>>> 
>>> Both. Why would it be a problem to use both tags if they both apply?
>> 
>> What’s the point? Why the nuance?
> 
> Personally, I don't think that the difference between"You need to write some new code."
> and
> "You need go and fix your old code."
> is just a nuance. Product managers may view these as two totally
> different matters with different business implications.

Right.  Adding features means just adding code.  Right.  

Must be sunny there.  

Joe



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