IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [rfc-i] documents in court, was Request for feedback: the new CSS

"John R Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Wed, 07 December 2016 13:14 UTC

Return-Path: <rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org>
X-Original-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80272129F10 for <ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 7 Dec 2016 05:14:37 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -6.987
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.987 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.896, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (1536-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=iecc.com header.b=rLY5LYrP; dkim=fail (1536-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=taugh.com header.b=pBjWmga4
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VrVki5yI2AKD for <ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 7 Dec 2016 05:14:35 -0800 (PST)
Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E087E129F15 for <rfc-interest-archive-eekabaiReiB1@ietf.org>; Wed, 7 Dec 2016 05:10:12 -0800 (PST)
Received: from rfcpa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99491B80331; Wed, 7 Dec 2016 05:10:12 -0800 (PST)
X-Original-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org
Delivered-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8B6B80331 for <rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org>; Wed, 7 Dec 2016 05:10:11 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc-editor.org
Authentication-Results: rfcpa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1536-bit key) header.d=iecc.com header.b=rLY5LYrP; dkim=pass (1536-bit key) header.d=taugh.com header.b=pBjWmga4
Received: from rfc-editor.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rfcpa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6G8b6lwgBq0z for <rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org>; Wed, 7 Dec 2016 05:10:09 -0800 (PST)
Received: from miucha.iecc.com (abusenet-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:1126::2]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FAA9B80322 for <rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org>; Wed, 7 Dec 2016 05:10:09 -0800 (PST)
Received: (qmail 80121 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2016 13:10:13 -0000
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent; s=138f8.58480a35.k1612; bh=WIufKFtke3BcYuJH+OfEkIJpTkC3hMxscRdZcyRqvic=; b=rLY5LYrPMD7PDB8AP35gBblG/JJ6X1nVjzYC3qjlk1dracGcfVcFeWevMn2EHTF9Q+jJjoL282c174eq7HK0/tQ5zWZ9v2V0utGMqJNFA1qGfS07+j9F6qlMPEHv5/30bjAcCpi3wcxZRb1QEGRcWnFUKI7zU/TcWNZB/zZJa/xtxxgWbEAVeerxu08m5euC4XiKyxrQdlUTtVct8BoS/tXprQOTSZblBbTlRvJeDSdzuqXOpNOz+ENRP4OEfVz5
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent; s=138f8.58480a35.k1612; bh=WIufKFtke3BcYuJH+OfEkIJpTkC3hMxscRdZcyRqvic=; b=pBjWmga4S2c7WWkIBc9VDlvjPp/KzTsaz6D3MrLDHlwOvHucaUZSlsLUh/zpfKreFdiP9YhFvYI2hIYsAm73qCurJosQvbB678KQq6Wm6KzqiohLomSf2embhA0urj0Gy991XmPQTjhJ8oE24FyfCUX5YUEdVzf4dV7jKTd+lNAKrSfsHo4djm1sLk1+DB/LPTvZf5g5lWJKXIoDkWcqF3IO/D5TTseMlKssOCqy2kfgOD/K3Azpr16zShNyhOdG
Received: from localhost ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPS (TLS1.0/X.509/SHA1) via TCP6; 07 Dec 2016 13:10:13 -0000
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2016 08:10:07 -0500
Message-ID: <alpine.OSX.2.11.1612070809320.90091@ary.qy>
From: John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
To: Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>
In-Reply-To: <CY1PR0201MB1530FFD247A6AEBF913E38ABC3850@CY1PR0201MB1530.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <20161205193246.24386.qmail@ary.lan> <751B147C-3F6D-45FF-BCA0-557F2C2CBB4C@sobco.com> <BECB977D-8B30-488B-9517-D562C85129A6@sobco.com> <alpine.OSX.2.11.1612051941080.78142@ary.qy> <CY1PR0201MB1530FFD247A6AEBF913E38ABC3850@CY1PR0201MB1530.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (OSX 23 2013-08-11)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: [rfc-i] documents in court, was Request for feedback: the new CSS
X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21
Precedence: list
List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." <rfc-interest.rfc-editor.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/options/rfc-interest>, <mailto:rfc-interest-request@rfc-editor.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.rfc-editor.org/pipermail/rfc-interest/>
List-Post: <mailto:rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org>
List-Help: <mailto:rfc-interest-request@rfc-editor.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest>, <mailto:rfc-interest-request@rfc-editor.org?subject=subscribe>
Cc: "rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org" <rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"
Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org
Sender: rfc-interest <rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org>

>> Federal court we've looked at stuff on screens.  But I still think it'd be
>> adequate to send them the XML and PDF and tell them we're pretty
>> sure they say the same thing.
>
> Does it help in this case that the XML will be *in* the PDF?
> At least to reduce the risk of sending things that don't match?

It couldn't hurt, but I don't know of any case law.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
_______________________________________________
rfc-interest mailing list
rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org
https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email