Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> is back, was: New xml2rfc release: v2.32.0

"HANSEN, TONY L" <tony@att.com> Mon, 07 October 2019 02:20 UTC

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From: "HANSEN, TONY L" <tony@att.com>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, Sandy Ginoza <sginoza@amsl.com>
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Subject: Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] <br> is back, was: New xml2rfc release: v2.32.0
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On 10/5/19, 12:36 AM, "xml2rfc-dev on behalf of Brian E Carpenter" <xml2rfc-dev-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:

    Hi Julian,
    On 05-Oct-19 17:08, Julian Reschke wrote:
    ....> The point of the xml2rfc vocabulary is to markup things based on their
    > semantics, not based on a certain desired plain text output.
    
    Fair enough; if we want to illustrate a point with a plain text example, then <artwork> seems appropriate. But I think we are talking about something else: cases where we *want* the text to stop here
    and continue on the next line, whatever output format (including HTML) we are using.
     
    > If we can't get acceptable *HTML* output, let's consider the use case
    > and come up with a proper solution (which might be <br/>).
    
    It applies to PDF etc too.
    
    <snip>
    
    > Why do these need to be on separate lines? (I don't understand the
    > context yet...)
    
    Ah, but a tool designer doesn't *need* to understand the context. If the author *wants* a line break, that's all we need to know.
    
    > (And yes, there was ample time to have this dicussion; RFC 7991 finished
    > three years ago).
    
    I'm a bit confused: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7991#section-2.12

And one of the things that is SUPPOSED to happen post publication is for real use to provide feedback on how to fix any glitches that were found trying to use it.

Well, we're trying to use it for real now.

Sandy, does the RPC feel that the ability to add a line break is needed? If so, I think the answer is clear on what to do.

	Tony