Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] End of support for xml2rfc on Python 2.x is coming soon

Martin J. Dürst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Wed, 09 October 2019 06:52 UTC

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From: "Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
To: Job Snijders <job@instituut.net>, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com>
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Subject: Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] [xml2rfc] End of support for xml2rfc on Python 2.x is coming soon
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On 2019/10/09 09:00, Job Snijders wrote:

> Between the name of the tool (note the 2 in "xlm2rfc"), the industry's
> transition from python 2 to python 3, and IETF's transition from the
> v2 to the v3 RFC XML format, it is no surprise to me end users easily
> become confused. A simple strong message that python2 can't be used
> might be helpful, even if it appears somewhat unforgiving.

What about changing xml2rfc's name to xml3rfc? That way, xml3rfc, python 
3, v3 of RFC XML, and pip3 would all align :-).

Regards,   Martin.