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Miek Gieben <miek@miek.nl> Sat, 05 October 2019 07:22 UTC

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Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2019 08:22:00 +0100
From: Miek Gieben <miek@miek.nl>
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[ Quoting <cabo@tzi.org> in "Re: [xml2rfc-dev] [Rfc-markdown] [x..." ]
>(If anyone wonders why I’m so slow to pick up v3 in kramdown-rfc:
>It is just too hard to guess what v3 actually is.
>And it’s changing, while stability of the authoring format is the whole point of kramdown-rfc.
>So generating v2-v3 and hoping that the RFC editor will bang the v3 derived from it into shape is the best transition strategy right now.)

I'm in the same boat with mmark. I do output xmlv3 but it's mostly what RFC7991 
specifies.

So what this triggers is the following situation: once xml2rfc is deemed OK for 
the RFC editor, both Carsten and I will try to convert markdown to xmlv3, which 
will likely tricker questions (which may lead to changes, etc.). 

Making these changes now, involves reading the xml2rfc *changelog*(!), and 
doesn't provide any stability guarantees.

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