Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc-dev] bcp14, was: New xml2rfc release: v2.25.0

Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> Mon, 26 August 2019 23:46 UTC

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Hi Dave,

On 2019-08-27 01:06, Dave Lawrence wrote:
> Julian Reschke writes:
>> If the sole reason for this change is to avoid breaking up MUST_NOT (and
>> friends), why not hard-wire that into the renderers (for HTML, I believe
>> it could be done with CSS...)?
> 
> And I readily admit I might have missed a memo, but if that is the
> sole reason then how did we arrive at the conclusion that they needed
> to be inseparable?

They don't.  There's no such rule that I know of, and I don't think there
should be one.

But if an RPC editor decides to make it so in some cases, why should xml2rfc
get in the way and issue an inappropriate warning about unrecognised keywords?

No reason to do so that I can see.  Which is why I made xml2rfc recognize
both "MUST NOT" and "MUST&nbsp;NOT" (and "MUST\tNOT", and "MUST\nNOT", and
some others) as a BCP 14 key word.


	Henrik