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X-BeenThere: rfced-future@iab.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: RFC Editor Future Development Program List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 02:44:02 -0000 Hi Brian, I just updated and posted . I believe that the original did address your requirements already, but I've added a little bit more content and made a few corrections. Cheers, Martin On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, at 00:55, Brian Rosen wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > The chairs would like to thank you for participating in the IETF 108 > meeting of the RFC Editor Futures program. We learned quite a bit at > that meeting, not the least of which was that the group is not yet > prepared to choose a direction. > > Therefore, what we are thinking is that the next step should be for > people to develop fleshed out proposals. It would be good to have > several alternatives that explore the different philosophies that have > been expressed in the group. Each proposal should be very clear on a > few points: > > * Overall motivation and philosophy > * What each proposed entity is responsible for > * What the relationship of each entity is to other entities > * What accountability, selection, and transparency mechanisms are in > play for each entity > > The next step would be for us to discuss these proposals and see if we > can find some common ground. Our thinking is that we would appoint a > neutral editor to document that common ground, which could come from > any proposal. > > The timing for any interim to discuss these depends very much on having > proposals. There are some drafts already of course, and we hope we can > have more soon. > > Thoughts? > > Eliot and Brian > -- > Rfced-future mailing list > Rfced-future@iab.org > https://www.iab.org/mailman/listinfo/rfced-future >