Re: [Rfced-future] Style guide and other non-strategic things ** Consensus check on part of Issue 12: Is the person an advisor (RSA) or an Executive Editor (RSE) **

[Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]>]

On 29-Nov-20 19:47, Christian Huitema wrote:
> On 11/28/2020 10:42 PM, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
> 
>> Depending upon what you mean by "look exactly like" below, the 
>> statement is either irelevant or does not match what I have seen as 
>> existing practice.
> 
> I mean content and general organization. I do agree with you, Joel, that 
> the same style guide applies to all streams.

Agreed, but when it gets tricky is if there's disagreement between the RPC and the stream (or authors) about interpretation of the style guide. There's no doubt that having an RSE provides a definitive tiebreaker in such a case. If we have an RSA model, I think we'd have to specify who would act as arbiter for style disagreements.

   Brian

> 
> -- Christian Huitema
> 
>>
>> We go to significant trouble to create and maintain a consistent look 
>> and feel across all RFCs.  there is an argument that they should be 
>> more distinguished, as some people think / hope that would reduce the 
>> all too common confusions.  (Of course, one would then want I-Ds to 
>> look more distinct as well.)
>>
>> But untill and unless we agree as a community on making that change, 
>> our existing practice has been to work for and value such consistency.
>>
>> Yours,
>> Joel
>>
>> On 11/29/2020 1:36 AM, Christian Huitema wrote:
>>> On 11/28/2020 10:12 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2020-11-28, at 23:07, Eric Rescorla<[e-mail]>  wrote:
>>>>> As I'm sure I've said before, from my perspective, the various 
>>>>> streams are
>>>>> customers of the RFC series, and ultimately it needs to serve their 
>>>>> needs.
>>>> Agree completely.
>>>>
>>>> But the RFC series may actually be better able to serve their needs 
>>>> if there is a way to have actual push-back on some not-so-good ideas 
>>>> of a particular stream manager.
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree with EKR that having the RPC escalate "author disagreements" 
>>> to the stream manager would quickly resolve most of the issues. I am 
>>> not too concerned about "uniformity of the series" arguments, since 
>>> by definition research papers from the IRTF will not look exactly 
>>> like proposed standards from the IETF, or individual contributions in 
>>> the independent stream. If that's really becoming a problem, then the 
>>> "strategic" body looks like a good place to discuss it.
>>>
>>> -- Christian Huitema
>>>
>>>
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