Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor
Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> Tue, 10 July 2018 20:45 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor
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On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 03:58:47PM -0400, Eric C Rosen wrote: > certainly have no problem with that. We shouldn't force researchers to > publish their work as RFCs. (I didn't think we did so, but ...) Indeed. > But that's really irrelevant to the main topic of this discussion. What we > are primarily discussing is whether we should prohibit folks from publishing > RFCs when they want to do so and find it valuable to do so. That's a > completely different question. It's a distinct question, but (as Ted argued) I think it's still on-topic. But I think your way of describing this issue has a certain merit, because you are in effect asserting that there is no benefit to the Internet community in having a gateway function to the RFC series. One proposed such gateway is IETF consensus, and the argument for that is that some significant population of people seem to believe already that the IETF is who is responsible for RFCs (see the remark I posted yesterday about Googling this). So, the argument goes, we should align what we claim with the way things are on the Internet, just as we might do in the case of our own protocols. Others seem to be arguing that the RFC series should in fact welcome anything on any topic, and as long as they can find someone willing to let them in, there's no reason they shouldn't be in the RFC series too (i.e. we shouldn't prohibit people "from publishing RFCs when they want to do so and find it valuable to do so"). It is an interesting question whether, if I wanted to publish an RFC about Wittgenstein's remarks on colour, whether the ISE would consider it. We do have the April 1st ones, after all. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com
- [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Ted Hardie
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eric C Rosen
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Ted Hardie
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Ted Hardie
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Bob Hinden
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Bob Hinden
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eric C Rosen
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Ted Hardie
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Aaron Falk
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Ted Hardie
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Aaron Falk
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eric C Rosen
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Aaron Falk
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Melinda Shore
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Aaron Falk
- [Rfcplusplus] What would the ISE publish [Was: Co… RFC ISE (Adrian Farrel)
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Brian Trammell (IETF)
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Ted Hardie
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor RFC ISE (Adrian Farrel)
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor S Moonesamy
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor S Moonesamy
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Martin Thomson
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Martin Thomson
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor S Moonesamy
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Aaron Falk