Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor
Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com> Wed, 11 July 2018 18:07 UTC
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From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com>
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Subject: Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor
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Hi SM! On 7/11/18 11:38 AM, S Moonesamy wrote: > Hi Peter, > At 09:24 AM 11-07-2018, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> We as a community seem to be confused about what level of "peer review" >> we think is important, appropriate, necessary, or sufficient. We're >> engineers, not academics, so comparing our publications to academic >> journals might not be relevant. > > Do IETF participants need a license [1] in the practice of engineering? s/engineers/technologists/ ;-) > There are academics who have authored RFCs in some of the Streams. Indeed. We could ask them what their goals were in doing so and what the results of RFC publication were for them. > There is an IAB RFC about citability of for scholarly publications. Why > would academic journals not be relevant? Publishing an RFC is different from publishing a paper in an academic journal, so applying the same criteria might not be appropriate. As far as I can see we're not actively catering to an academic audience (either as authors or readers). > There has to be some level of review or else there wouldn't be any > quality control. I agree that there is some confusion on the level of > review which is required. And different levels or kinds of review across the different streams. This returns to the question of audiences for the streams. Vendors and operators seem to differ quite a bit from researchers and academics (naturally there is always overlap). Peter
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- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eric C Rosen
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Ted Hardie
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Ted Hardie
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Bob Hinden
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Bob Hinden
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eric C Rosen
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Ted Hardie
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Aaron Falk
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Ted Hardie
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Aaron Falk
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eric C Rosen
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Aaron Falk
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Melinda Shore
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Aaron Falk
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- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Brian Trammell (IETF)
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Ted Hardie
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor RFC ISE (Adrian Farrel)
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor S Moonesamy
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor S Moonesamy
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Martin Thomson
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Martin Thomson
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor S Moonesamy
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Aaron Falk