Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 11 July 2018 02:04 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor
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On 11/07/2018 07:58, Eric C Rosen wrote: > On 7/10/2018 3:28 PM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: >> One thing we_do_ have some data about is the low regard in which the >> RFC series is held in many academic contexts, because it is not >> considered a peer reviewed publication and because it is often >> considered a series for technical standards rather than for academic >> research. > > If the IRTF determines that it would prefer a different publication > venue, I certainly have no problem with that. We shouldn't force > researchers to publish their work as RFCs. (I didn't think we did so, > but ...) If I were a researcher, I'd probably want to publish in a > reputable academic journal, but perhaps my academic experience is a bit > dated. > > But that's really irrelevant to the main topic of this discussion. What > we are primarily discussing is whether we should prohibit folks from > publishing RFCs when they want to do so and find it valuable to do so. > That's a completely different question. Indeed, and that (to repeat myself) is something that the IETF and its committees simply cannot do, since the RFC series belongs to a much wider community. In that sense, the entire discussion is out of order. Brian
- [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Ted Hardie
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eric C Rosen
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Ted Hardie
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Ted Hardie
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Bob Hinden
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Bob Hinden
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eric C Rosen
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Ted Hardie
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Aaron Falk
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Ted Hardie
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Aaron Falk
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eric C Rosen
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Aaron Falk
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Melinda Shore
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Aaron Falk
- [Rfcplusplus] What would the ISE publish [Was: Co… RFC ISE (Adrian Farrel)
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Brian Trammell (IETF)
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Ted Hardie
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor RFC ISE (Adrian Farrel)
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor S Moonesamy
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor S Moonesamy
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Martin Thomson
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Martin Thomson
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor S Moonesamy
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Conversation as metaphor Aaron Falk