Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us
Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> Tue, 10 July 2018 20:56 UTC
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From: Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx>
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 16:56:18 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us
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On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 4:11 PM Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote: > Richard, > > On Jul 10, 2018, at 7:21 AM, Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 6:32 PM Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> > wrote: > >> This formulation assumes that change does not have a cost. It does. I >> agree that not changing has some cost. However, absent indication that >> the changes will actually address the claimed problem... > > > People are presenting indications. Attach what caveats you need to my > little study; it's still real data from a relevant population. Do you have > better data? > > > > When I saw the survey, after I filled it in, I noticed that I could do it > again. There didn’t appear to be a mechanism to keep anyone from taking it > multiple times. Based on this, I don’t think one can draw any conclusions. > Do you ever use telemetry from fielded products? How do you know your competitors aren't feeding you bad data? --Richard > > Bob > > >
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Richard Barnes
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Richard Barnes
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Joel M. Halpern
- [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Richard Barnes
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Eric C Rosen
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Bob Hinden
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Richard Barnes
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Bob Hinden
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Richard Barnes
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us S Moonesamy
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfcplusplus] Sunk cost + not about us Alissa Cooper