[rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT

Thierry Ernst <ernst@sfc.wide.ad.jp> Wed, 13 July 2005 02:01 UTC

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From: Thierry Ernst <ernst@sfc.wide.ad.jp>
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Subject: [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT
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Hi,

> Thierry, note that the agenda address is agenda@ietf.org
Ah, yes, sorry about that, and thanks for pointing out.

> It's also not new that the IETF continues until Friday
> lunchtime - I'm really surprised that people plan to leave
> earlier. I'm sure that our scheduler will do what she can, but
> the Friday slots have to be used.

Yes, I know about that, and I'm always arranging my flight
accordingly and change it to an earlier date if there is nothing
important to attend. 

But I'm not responsive for the other people own flight arrangments,
although for this particular case I have to bear the situation of not
having the right people at hand for the success of this BOF. As the
initiator and chair, I need to ensure the success.

It's notorious that people try to arrange their flight in advance in
order to get cheaper prices, so if we really want people to organize
their trip in a way they consider staying on Friday, we:
1. must issue a draft agenda earlier (I would say 1 month in advance at
the very least
2. in case of agenda changes, no slot should be move to the extremity of
the week
3. people should get used to stay on Friday

The problem for 3 is that some WGs have to play the role of guinea-pig
and this is not acceptable. So, 1 and 2 may be the 1st category's
requirement. May be one eaay way is for some WGs to volunteer for a
Friday BOF ahead of time, with the information spread on the relevant
mailing lists.

A side note, I think it's a bad idea to schedule a BOF on Friday because
many people are not aware of the content of a BOF before they attend;
also BOF need to span a larger audience.


Thierry





>      Brian
> 
> Thierry Ernst wrote:
> > Dear secretariat,
> > 
> > I would like to request a re-schedule of the Monami6 BOF (currently
> > on Friday) as 2 of the people involved in the setting up of this BOF
> > with me would not be able to attend Friday due to early flight
> > arrangment.
> > 
> > Also, the NEMO WG is allocated a 2.5 hours slot, 2 hours would be
> > largely enough this time.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Thierry
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:58:55 -0400
> > IETF Secretariat <ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org> wrote:
> > 
> >>Draft Agenda of the Sixty-third IETF
> >>July 31 - August 5, 2005
> >>As of 7/11/2005
> > 
> > 
> >>WEDNESDAY, August 3, 2005
> >>1400-1630 Afternoon Session I
> >>APP	lemonade	Enhancements to Internet email to Support Diverse
> >>Service Environments WG
> >>INT	dnsext	DNS Extensions WG
> >>INT	nemo	Network Mobility WG
> >>OPS	imad	IPv4 Multicast Address Architecture BOF
> >>RTG	ccamp	Common Control and Measurement Plane WG
> >>SEC	mobike	IKEv2 Mobility and Multihoming WG
> >>TSV	tsvwg	Transport Area WG
> > 
> > 
> >>FRIDAY, August 5, 2005
> >>0800-0900 Beverages - 
> >>0900-1130 Morning Session I
> >>APP	calsify	Calendaring and Scheduling Standards Simplification WG
> >>GEN	newtrk	New IETF Standards Track Discussion WG
> >>INT	monami6	Mobile Nodes and Multiple Interfaces in IPv6 BOF
> >>IRTF	hiprg	HIP Research Group
> >>SEC	alien	Anonymous Identifiers BOF
> >>TSV	enum	Telephone Number Mapping WG
> >>TSV	nsis	Next Steps in Signaling WG
> > 
> > 
> > 

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