[rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT - VoIP Peer / SIMPLE conflict.

Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com> Sun, 17 July 2005 00:25 UTC

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From: Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com>
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Subject: [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT - VoIP Peer / SIMPLE conflict.
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I hope we can find a way to solve this conflict. At first glance it might
not seem that these two subjects have much overlap - they don't. The problem
is that the authors of most the SIMPLE documents (and presumably the folks
who will be requesting agenda time in SIMPLE) are also folks that have very
involved and had useful opinions on some of our previous peering
discussions. 

Cullen


On 7/14/05 2:47 PM, "David Meyer" <dmm@1-4-5.net> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 10:20:03AM -0700, Rohan Mahy wrote:
>> I can specifically suggest Tuesday 0900-1000 for voipeer, if the BoF
>> can fit into a one hour slot.
> 
> Folks,
> 
> First,  I specifically asked the secretariat to avoid
> SHIM6 (which is scheduled for Tuesday AM), as I am one of
> the technical advisors there. I note, however, that the
> time slot which voipeer is currently scheduled has other
> conflicts for me (as it overlaps with MBONED), and I have
> informed the secretariat of this conflict.
> 
> Second, as I described in an earlier email, much thought
> has gone into trying to accommodate all of the folks who
> want to participate (and their varying scheduling
> constraints), and optimize the amount of time needed, so
> I would like the BOF length as we have previously decided.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
>> thanks,
>> -rohan
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 14, 2005, at 7:33, Hisham Khartabil wrote:
>> 
>>> There is a conflict in the agenda on Thursday Afternoon Session I. A
>>> sizeable portion on the VoIP community attend SIMPLE WG meeting and
>>> will be interested in attending VOIPEER BOF.
>>> 
>>> It would be great that when moving the slot, to make sure that no
>>> other conflicts occur with sip, sipping, enum, mmusic, ecrit, xcon,
>>> behave and avt working groups. It might be much easier to move voipeer
>>> since its a bof and I dont think it requires a 2.5 hour slot.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Hisham
>>> 
>>>> sip, sipping, simple, enum, mmusic, ecrit, xcon, behave and avt
>>> On Jul 11, 2005, at 11:58 PM, IETF Secretariat wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Attached please find the 1st draft of the agenda.  Please send
>>>> comments to
>>>> agenda@ietf.org
>>>> 
>>>> Every effort has been made to accommodate all the requests made by
>>>> the chairs,
>>>> unfortuantely, not all requests could be met.  If your working group
>>>> had asked
>>>> for a longer session than the one you are scheduled in, perhaps an
>>>> additional
>>>> session can be scheduled.  Due to scheduling contraints, it was not
>>>> always
>>>> possible to schedule groups in their requested length of session.
>>>> ======================================================================
>>>> ====
>>>> 
>>>> Draft Agenda of the Sixty-third IETF
>>>> July 31 - August 5, 2005
>>>> As of 7/11/2005
>>>> 
>>>> SUNDAY, July 31, 2005
>>>> 1200-1900 Registration -
>>>> 1300-1430 Newcomer’s Training (English) -
>>>> 1300-1500 Routing, Bridging and Switching -
>>>> 1500-1630 Newcomer's Training (French) -
>>>> 1500-1700 RFC Editor Tutorial -
>>>> 1500-1700 DNS Tutorial -
>>>> 1700-1900 Welcome Reception -
>>>> 
>>>> MONDAY, August 1, 2005
>>>> 0800-1930 IETF Registration -
>>>> 0800-0900 Beverages -
>>>> 0900-1000 Morning Session I
>>>> APP apparea Applications Open Area Meeting
>>>> INT netlmm Network-based Localized Mobility Management BOF
>>>> OPS ipcdn IP over Cable Data Network WG
>>>> RTG rpsec Routing Protocols Security Requirements WG
>>>> SEC openpgp An Open Specification for Pretty Good Privacy WG
>>>> TSV ieprep Internet Emergency Preparedness WG
>>>> 
>>>> 1000-1030 Break (Beverages provided) –
>>>> 1030-1230 Morning Session II
>>>> INT intarea Internet Area Meeting
>>>> OPS dnsop Domain Name System Operations WG
>>>> RTG mpls MultiProtocol Label Switching WG
>>>> RTG forces Forwarding and Control Element Separation WG
>>>> SEC kitten Kitten (GSS-API Next Generation) WG
>>>> TSV ippm IP Performance Metrics WG
>>>> TSV sip Session Initiation Protocol WG
>>>> 
>>>> 1230-1400 Break
>>>> 1400-1600 Afternoon Session I
>>>> APP geopriv Geographic Location/Privacy WG
>>>> INT hip Host Identity Protocol WG
>>>> INT pana Protocol for Carrying Authentication for Network Access WG
>>>> OPS capwap Control and Provisioning of Wireless Access Points WG
>>>> OPS v6ops IPv6 Operations WG
>>>> RTG rtgarea Routing Area Open Meeting
>>>> SEC krbwg Kerberos WG
>>>> TSV mmuisc Multiparty Multimedia Session Control WG
>>>> 
>>>> 1600-1630 Break (Refreshments provided) -
>>>> 1630-1800 Afternoon Session II
>>>> INT autoconf Ad Hoc Network Configuration BOF
>>>> INT l3vpn Layer 3 Virtual Private Networks WG
>>>> IRTF p2prg Peer-to-Peer Research Group
>>>> OPS ipfix IP Flow Information Export WG
>>>> RTG pce Path Computation Element WG
>>>> SEC ltans Long-term Archive and Notary Services WG
>>>> TSV rohc Robust Header Compression WG
>>>> TSV rmt Reliable Multicast Transport WG
>>>> 
>>>> 1815-1945 Afternoon Session III
>>>> INT l3vpn Layer 3 Virtual Private Networks WG
>>>> INT mip4 Mobility for IPv4 WG
>>>> OPS grow Global Routing Operations WG
>>>> SEC hash One-way Hash Function BOF
>>>> TSV rserpool Reliable Server Pooling WG
>>>> TSV xcon Centralized Conferencing WG
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> TUESDAY, August 2, 2005
>>>> 0800-1800 IETF Registration -
>>>> 0800-0900 Beverages -
>>>> 0900-1000 Morning Session I
>>>> INT shim6 Site Multihoming by IPv6 Intermediation WG
>>>> OPS psamp Packet Sampling WG
>>>> SEC kink Kerberized Internet Negotiation of Keys WG
>>>> 
>>>> 1000-1030 Break (Beverages provided) –
>>>> 1030-1230 Morning Session II
>>>> APP lemonade Enhancements to Internet email to Support Diverse
>>>> Service
>>>> Environments WG
>>>> INT mipshop MIPv6 Signaling and Handoff Optimization WG
>>>> INT pwe3 Pseudo Wire Emulation Edge to Edge WG
>>>> OPS bmwg Benchmarking Methodology WG
>>>> RTG pim Protocol Independent Multicast WG
>>>> SEC secmech Security Mechanisms BOF
>>>> TSV avt Audio/Video Transport WG
>>>> TSV ecrit Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies WG
>>>> 
>>>> 1230-1400 Break
>>>> 1400-1600 Afternoon Session I
>>>> INT eap Extensible Authentication Protocol WG
>>>> INT ipv6 Internet Protocol Version 6 WG
>>>> IRTF dtnrg Delay Tolerant Networking Research Group
>>>> SEC pkix Public-Key Infrastructure (X.509) WG
>>>> TSV nfsv4 Network File System Version 4 WG
>>>> TSV sip Session Initiation Protocol WG
>>>> 
>>>> 1600-1630 Break (Refreshments provided) -
>>>> 1630-1800 Afternoon Session II
>>>> GEN techspec Requirements for IETF Technical Specification
>>>> Publication BOF
>>>> INT mip6 Mobility for IPv6 WG
>>>> INT ntp Network Time Protocol WG
>>>> OPS imss Internet and Management Support for Storage WG
>>>> RTG l1vpn Layer One Virtual Private Networks WG
>>>> SEC sasl Simple Authentication and Security Layer WG
>>>> TSV behave Behavior Engineering for Hindrance Avoidance WG
>>>> 
>>>> 1815-1945 Afternoon Session III
>>>> APP sieve Sieve Mail Filtering Language WG
>>>> INT mip6 Mobility for IPv6 WG
>>>> RTG rtgwg Routing Area WG
>>>> SEC msec Multicast Security WG
>>>> TSV ips IP Storage WG
>>>> TSV tcpm TCP Maintenance and Minor Extensions WG
>>>> 
>>>> WEDNESDAY, August 3, 2005
>>>> 0800-1700 IETF Registration -
>>>> 0800-0900 Beverages -
>>>> 0900-1000 Morning Session I
>>>> APP ldapbis LDAP (v3) Revision WG
>>>> INT shim6 Site Multihoming by IPv6 Intermediation WG
>>>> INT pwe3 Pseudo Wire Emulation Edge to Edge WG
>>>> OPS opsec Operational Security Capabilities for IP Network
>>>> Infrastructure WG
>>>> SEC pki4ipsec Profiling Use of PKI in IPSEC WG
>>>> TSV avt Audio/Video Transport WG
>>>> 
>>>> 1000-1030 Break (Beverages provided) –
>>>> 1030-1230 Morning Session II
>>>> APP imapext Internet Message Access Protocol Extension WG
>>>> INT ipdvb IP over Digital Video Broadcast WG
>>>> INT l2vpn Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks WG
>>>> OPS radext RADIUS Extensions WG
>>>> RTG ospf Open Shortest Path First IGP WG
>>>> SEC inch Extended Incident Handling W
>>>> SEC sacred Securely Available Credentials WG
>>>> TSV sipping Session Initiation Protocol Investigation WG
>>>> 
>>>> 1230-1400 Break
>>>> 1400-1630 Afternoon Session I
>>>> APP lemonade Enhancements to Internet email to Support Diverse
>>>> Service
>>>> Environments WG
>>>> INT dnsext DNS Extensions WG
>>>> INT nemo Network Mobility WG
>>>> OPS imad IPv4 Multicast Address Architecture BOF
>>>> RTG ccamp Common Control and Measurement Plane WG
>>>> SEC mobike IKEv2 Mobility and Multihoming WG
>>>> TSV tsvwg Transport Area WG
>>>> 
>>>> 1630-1700 Break (Refreshments provided) -
>>>> 17:00-19:30 Plenary - Main Amphitheatre (Level 1)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2200            Late Night Session
>>>> PGP Key Signing
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> THURSDAY, August 4, 2005
>>>> 0800-1700 IETF Registration -
>>>> 0800-0900 Beverages –
>>>> 0900-1000  Morning Session I
>>>> APP crisp Cross Registry Information Service Protocol WG
>>>> INT 6lowpan IPv6 over Low Power WPAN WG
>>>> INT lrw Lightweight Reachability softWires BOF
>>>> OPS netconf Network Configuration WG
>>>> SEC btns Better Than Nothing Security WG
>>>> TSV nsis Next Steps in Signaling WG
>>>> TSV xcon Centralized Conferencing WG
>>>> 
>>>> 1000-1030 Break (Beverages provided) –
>>>> 1030-1230 Morning Session II
>>>> APP rui Remote UI BOF
>>>> INT dhc Dynamic Host Configuration WG
>>>> INT trill Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links WG
>>>> IRTF mobopts IP Mobility Optimizations RG
>>>> RTG idr Inter-Domain Routing WG
>>>> SEC isms Integrated Security Model for SNMP WG
>>>> SEC mass Message Authentication Signature Service WG
>>>> TSV sipping Session Initiation Protocol Investigation WG
>>>> 
>>>> 1230-1400 Break
>>>> 1400-1630 Afternoon Session I
>>>> APP simple SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging
>>>> Extensions WG
>>>> INT dna Detecting Network Attachment WG
>>>> INT eap Extensible Authentication Protocol WG
>>>> OPS mboned MBONE Deployment WG
>>>> RTG manet Mobile Ad-hoc Networks WG
>>>> SEC saag Open Security Area Directorate
>>>> TSV dccp Datagram Congestion Control Protocol WG
>>>> TSV voipeer VoIP Peering and Interconnect BOF
>>>> 
>>>> 1630-1700 Break (Refreshments provided) -
>>>> 17:00-19:30 Plenary - Main Amphitheatre (Level 1)
>>>> 
>>>> FRIDAY, August 5, 2005
>>>> 0800-0900 Beverages -
>>>> 0900-1130 Morning Session I
>>>> APP calsify Calendaring and Scheduling Standards Simplification WG
>>>> GEN newtrk New IETF Standards Track Discussion WG
>>>> INT monami6 Mobile Nodes and Multiple Interfaces in IPv6 BOF
>>>> IRTF hiprg HIP Research Group
>>>> SEC alien Anonymous Identifiers BOF
>>>> TSV enum Telephone Number Mapping WG
>>>> TSV nsis Next Steps in Signaling WG
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 


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