[rgchairs] Re: Long BoFs (was Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT)

Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com> Wed, 20 July 2005 23:14 UTC

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Subject: [rgchairs] Re: Long BoFs (was Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT)
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Rohan Mahy wrote:
> Folks,
> I understand that voipeer was approved and the ADs agreed on 2.5 hours. 
>  My personal impression is that if a BoF requires more than 1 hour, 
> either the scope is too large or there has not been enough mailing list 
> or ad-hoc discussion yet.
> I think the scheduling problem would be easier if we restrict BoFs to 1 
> hour in the future.  Active WGs should take precedence and this is one 
> way to do that.

I'm not sure I'd want a rigid rule for BOFs. If a BOF is very close to being
a WG (charter out for review but not yet approved, for example) it seems
reasonable to give it a longer slot. But certainly if it's really exploratory,
it should be shorter.


> Thanks again Marcia for making the best of an impossible situation.
> thanks,
> -rohan
> On Jul 14, 2005, at 8:11, David Meyer wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 04:33:00PM +0200, Hisham Khartabil wrote:
>>> There is a conflict in the agenda on Thursday Afternoon Session I. A
>>> sizeable portion on the VoIP community attend SIMPLE WG meeting and
>>> will be interested in attending VOIPEER BOF.
>>> It would be great that when moving the slot, to make sure that no other
>>> conflicts occur with sip, sipping, enum, mmusic, ecrit, xcon, behave
>>> and avt working groups. It might be much easier to move voipeer since
>>> its a bof and I dont think it requires a 2.5 hour slot.
>>     First, I realize the very difficult scheduling problem
>>     that the secretariat is facing. I wanted, however, to
>>     address the time requirements for the BOF. When I was
>>     discussing this with the ADs, we settled on this length
>>     for the BOF due to the overwhelming number of folks who
>>     expressed interest in participating (and their various
>>     scheduling constraints). In any event, I would rather
>>     leave the 2.5 hour length as it is, or we won't be able
>>     to have time for everyone who has expressed interest to
>>     participate, and to have a reasonable amount of time for
>>     discussion.
>>     Dave

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