[rgchairs] RE: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT

john.loughney@nokia.com Thu, 14 July 2005 03:36 UTC

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Andrew,

> > Not to pick on you specificially, but I am always dismayed folks not
> > planning to attend on Friday.
> 
> I'm not.  I know quite a few people who don't plan on attending  
> Friday sessions.  For this past meeting in Minneapolis, I knew of  
> quite a few people who left on Thursday morning.
> 
> The simple fact of the matter is that many people have limited time  
> and limited budget.  And some people have little choice regarding  
> airline schedules, either they take the 11:00am flight on Friday or  
> they wait an entire extra day for the 11:00am flight on Saturday.   
> And when meetings are held in places like Paris, some people are  
> under considerable pressure not to give the appearance of a  
> boondoggle. There are a host of real world issues many participants  
> must grapple with, and telling them that they should be more devoted  
> to the IETF is not helpful.
> 
> As for scheduling, I'd rather see the extra plenary session abandoned  
> and have that time dedicated for more working group and bof slots.

As you mentioned above (folks leaving on Thursday morning), I'm sure if
we did that - late night meeting on Thursday - we have just as many people
complaining about that, and requesting not to be scheduled on Thursday
evening because they have a flight to catch.  

IETF meetings are not mandatory for people to attend; if attending meetings
are problematic or subject to intense scrutiny by someone's travel department,
then they can just particpate on the mailing list.  There are plenty of people
who do this already.

John

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