[rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT
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At 02:41 PM 7/14/2005, Tom Taylor wrote: >Is that really true given that you identified a major overlap between this >and the ENUM potential agenda? oh yes...you cant discuss voipeer without understanding what is happening in the ENUM WG. The first order problem is how do you discover a point of interconnection..this debate is raging in the ENUM WG. I just posted our WG agenda. It should be self evident what the overlaps are. We are devoting a full 1 1/2 hour to the concept of Infrastructure/Carrier ENUM. IETF 63 Telephone Number Mapping (ENUM) WG Agenda Chair(s): Patrik Faltstrom <paf@cisco.com> Richard Shockey <rich.shockey@neustar.biz> Transport Area Advisor: Allison Mankin <mankin@psg.com> Mailing Lists: General Discussion:enum@ietf.org To Subscribe: enum-request@ietf.org In Body: subscribe Archive: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/enum/ AGENDA BASHING (5 min) 1. Review of the existing drafts - Ready to go top Last call ( 5-10 M ? ) Title : ENUM Implementation Issues and Experiences Author(s) : L. Conroy, K. Fujiwara Filename : draft-ietf-enum-experiences-02.txt Pages : 29 Date : 2005-7-1 This document captures experience in implementing systems based on the ENUM protocol, and experience of ENUM data that have been created by others. As such, it is informational only, and produced as a help to others in reporting what is "out there" and the potential pitfalls in interpreting the set of documents that specify the protocol. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-enum-experiences-02.txt 2. Final disposition of IRIS EREG, hopefully to last call. ( 5 Min? ) A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-newton-iris-ereg-00.txt 3. New/old work on enumservice registrations ( 20 M ) 3.1 > Title : IANA Registration for Enumservice Voice > Author(s) : R. Brandner, et al. > Filename : draft-brandner-enum-voice-00.txt > Pages : 12 > Date : 2005-7-7 > > This document registers the ENUMservice ^voice^ (which has a defined > sub-type ^tel^), as per the IANA registration process defined in the > ENUM specification RFC3761. This service indicates that the contact > held in the generated URI can be used to initiate an interactive > voice (audio) call. > >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-brandner-enum-voice-00.txt 3.2 Title : IANA Registration for an Enumservice Containing Number Portability and PSTN Signaling Information Author(s) : J. Livingood, R. Shockey Filename : draft-livingood-shockey-enum-npd-00.txt Pages : 8 Date : 2005-7-8 This document registers the Enumservice "npd" and subtype "tel" using the URI scheme 'tel:' as per the IANA registration process defined in the ENUM specification, RFC 3761. This data is used to facilitate the routing of telephone calls in those countries where Number Portability exists. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-livingood-shockey-enum-npd-00.txt 3.3 > Title : IANA Registration for ENUMservice Mobile Webpage > Author(s) : J. Ra, et al. > Filename : draft-ra-shin-enum-mobileweb-00.txt > Pages : > Date : 2005-7-7 > > This document registers the ENUMservice ^mobweb^ using the URI > schemes 'http:' and 'https:' as per the IANA registration process > defined in the ENUM specification RFC3761. > >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ra-shin-enum-mobileweb-00.txt 4. ENUM Validation Issues. 3 Drafts 15 -20 4.1 ENUM Validation Architecture draft-mayrhofer-enum-validation-arch-00 Title : ENUM Validation Architecture Author(s) : A. Mayrhofer, B. Hoeneisen Filename : draft-mayrhofer-enum-validation-arch-00.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2005-7-11 An ENUM domain name is tightly coupled with the underlying E.164 number. The process of verifying whether or not the Registrant of an ENUM domain name is identical to the Assignee of the corresponding E.164 number is commonly called ^validation^. This document describes validation requirements and a high level architecture for an ENUM validation infrastructure. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mayrhofer-enum-validation-arch-00.txt 4.2 "ENUM Validation Token Format Definition" - draft-lendl-enum-validation-token-00.txt Title : ENUM Validation Token Format Definition Author(s) : O. Lendl Filename : draft-lendl-enum-validation-token-00.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2005-7-11 An ENUM domain name is tightly coupled with the underlying E.164 number. The process of verifying whether the Registrant of an ENUM domain name is identical to the Assignee of the corresponding E.164 number is commonly called ^validation^. This document describes an signed XML data format -- the Validation Token -- with which Validation Entities can convey successful completion of a validation procedure in a secure fashion. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lendl-enum-validation-token-00.txt 4.3 Bernie Hoeneisen http://ietf.hoeneisen.ch/draft-ietf-enum-validation-epp-00.txt http://ietf.hoeneisen.ch/draft-ietf-enum-validation-epp-00.html ################# 5. PART 2 1/2 hours. 3 Items The first order of business is to attempt to create some very basic common ground on what is the problem Carrier/Infrastructure/Private ENUM is trying to solve based on what we generally understand are the orthogonal interests of A. the E.164 number holder vs B. the carrier of record for that number. In addition try to place this problem statement in the over all context of converged carrier networks and the desire for interconnection and peering. We are NOT going to solve the Carrier ENUM definition and problem statement in Paris but there needs to be some baseline before we can generally review the drafts at hand. Steve Lind has attempted to capture some of the ongoing discussion. This was not ready before the ID cut off but anyone coming to Paris is encouraged to read and comment on this ID on the list. http://www.sdlind.com/draft-lind-infrastructure-enum-reqs-00.txt ################# Discussion of Pfautz etal drafts on Carrier ENUM - Requirements ? > Title : IANA Carrier/User enumservice Registration > Author(s) : P. Pfautz, et al. > Filename : draft-pfautz-lind-enum-carrier-user-00.txt > Pages : 10 > Date : 2005-6-6 > >This document registers, pursuant to the guidelines in RFC 3761, > tElephone NUmber Mapping (ENUM) services to allow a single registry > to support end user and carrier services with independent name > servers holding the terminal NAPTR (Naming Authority Pointer) records > identifying the communication services for each. The to-be- > registered enumservices make use of non-terminal NAPTR records and > DDDS (Dynamic Delegation Discovery System) replacement to achieve > this end. > >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-pfautz-lind-enum-carrier-user-00.txt "Combined User and Carrier ENUM in the e164.arpa tree" Title : Combined User and Carrier ENUM in the e164.arpa tree Author(s) : M. Haberler, R. Stastny Filename : draft-haberler-carrier-enum-00.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2005-7-11 ENUM as defined now in RFC3761 is not well suited for the purpose of interconnection by carriers, as can be seen by the use of various private tree arrangements based on ENUM mechanisms. A combined end- user and carrier ENUM tree solution would leverage the ENUM infrastructure in e164.arpa, increase resolution rates, and decrease the cost per registered telephone number. This document describes a minimally invasive scheme to provide both end-user and carrier data in ENUM. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-haberler-carrier-enum-00.txt >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >directories. > > > Title : Non-Terminal NAPTR Processing: A Modest Proposal > Author(s) : L. Conroy > Filename : draft-conroy-enum-modestproposal-00.txt > Pages : 12 > Date : 2005-7-6 > > Recent Discussions within the IETF and in other fora have highlighted > differences in interpretation of the set of standards associated with > ENUM and DDDS, on which it relies. Specifically, the operation and > semantics surrounding support for non-terminal NAPTRs has led to some > confusion. This document is an attempt to add clarification to non- > terminal NAPTR processing. In this, it clarifies RFC3403. A > subsequent document will build on this one to extend RFC3761 further, > permitting registration of non-terminal Enumservices. > >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-conroy-enum-modestproposal-00.txt 6. Discussion of ENUM WG recharter ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Director - Member of Technical Staff NeuStar Inc. 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org sip:57141@fwd.pulver.com ENUM +87810-13313-31331 PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683, Fax: +1 815.333.1237 <mailto:richard(at)shockey.us> or <mailto:richard.shockey(at)neustar.biz> <http://www.neustar.biz> ; <http://www.enum.org> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ Rgchairs mailing list Rgchairs@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rgchairs
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