Re: [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT
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>>> And when meetings are held in places like Paris, some people are >>> under considerable pressure not to give the appearance of a >>> boondoggle. >> The selection of a proper meeting site is a delicate decision. Some of the main requirements for organizing a meeting include: o Conveniently located site, within a short drive from both US west and east coasts, Europe, and most of Asia, with reserved parking near the registration desk for everyone. o Proper balance between services for work related purposes and recreational possibilities. The key problem here is getting your manager to approve a trip to the IETF. For this to happen, the manager needs to have a vision of everyone working very hard and not even peeking outside. This is not likely if the destination is, say, Hawaiji. On the other hand, the participants are not immune to enjoying good weather, food, or scenery. In order to solve this, the secretariat is negotiating with the city of Paris, France about changing the name of one of their suburbs to "Minneapolis" and holding our meetings there on a regular basis. This would be a win-win change for everyone: travel gets approved, the participants concentrate only on work in any case, but they get to do it in a warm place and eat well. o No meetings will be held during any religious holiday or during national holidays, all religions and nations considered. (As a result, the next seven meetings all need to be held on January 6th, 2006, as no other dates are available.) o The meeting fees can raise the bar for participants without the backing of a major corporation. On the other hand, the fees generate income necessary for the IETF to operate. One option that has been considered for this problem is to create a new meeting fee category for Tourists. The fee would be the same as for other participants, but it would not entitle for actual entrance to the meeting, reducing congestion in the meeting rooms. Initial marketing research among Tourists indicates that this new category would be attractive, as long as their managers would still approve their trip to "Minneapolis". Another experiment that has been planned is the creation of an "accommodation included" meeting fee option. This would allow low-budget travel for our academic participants, with the accommodation arranged in the meeting rooms. The only remaining problem is determining how to wake these participants up before the meeting starts, so that they go from their "night" sleep to "not an interesting draft" nap. _______________________________________________ Rgchairs mailing list Rgchairs@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rgchairs
- [rgchairs] 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT IETF Secretariat
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Thierry Ernst
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Brian E Carpenter
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Thierry Ernst
- [rgchairs] RE: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT john.loughney
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Jeffrey Hutzelman
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Brian E Carpenter
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Brian E Carpenter
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Lars Eggert
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Thierry Ernst
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Chan-Wah Ng
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Steven M. Bellovin
- [rgchairs] RE: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT David B Harrington
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Andrew Newton
- Re: [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Andrew Newton
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Andrew Newton
- [rgchairs] IETF responsabilities in "Friday atten… Thierry Ernst
- [rgchairs] RE: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT john.loughney
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Steven M. Bellovin
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Rohan Mahy
- Re: [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Jari Arkko
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Andrew Newton
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Rohan Mahy
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Brian E Carpenter
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Andrew Newton
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Hisham Khartabil
- Re: [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Thomas Heide clausen
- [rgchairs] RE: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Susan Hares
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT David Meyer
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT David Meyer
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Richard Shockey
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Hisham Khartabil
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Tom Taylor
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Richard Shockey
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT David Meyer
- [rgchairs] Re: IETF responsabilities in "Friday a… James Kempf
- [rgchairs] Change in NETLMM James Kempf
- [rgchairs] RE: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Eric Burger
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Pete Resnick
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Brian E Carpenter
- [rgchairs] RE: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT Eric Burger
- [rgchairs] Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - DRAFT - VoIP Pe… Cullen Jennings
- [rgchairs] Long BoFs (was Re: 63rd IETF Agenda - … Rohan Mahy
- [rgchairs] Re: Long BoFs (was Re: 63rd IETF Agend… Brian E Carpenter