Re: [rmcat] Sections 5.1 and 5.2 of draft-ietf-rmcat-eval-test-01
Sergio Mena <semena@cisco.com> Wed, 26 August 2015 07:35 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rmcat] Sections 5.1 and 5.2 of draft-ietf-rmcat-eval-test-01
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Hi Zahed, First of all, your question. By "insensitive traffic" I meant that the flow is CBR, so it won't back off whether other traffic is present in the bottleneck link or not. Maybe we can find a better name for this... On the other hand, in the last days, I have been working on an ns3 implementation of some of the test cases in the draft. I realized that it would be coherent (and useful, IMO) for 5.3 to also have a "b" version where both forward and backward paths are changed by a CBR, similarly to 5.1 and 5.2. Let me know your thoughts on this. Regards, Sergio On 24/08/15 13:45, Zaheduzzaman Sarker wrote: > > Hi Sergio, > > Thanks for your effort. > > I think the proposed changes looks good. > > As we have plan to update the variation of path capacity relative to > initial path capacity for test case 5.1 and test case 5.2, we need to > change the respective text in the 5.1b and 5.2b to be aligned with that. > > One clarification question : in 5.1b what does the “insensitive > traffic” means in the new text? > > BR > > Zahed > > *From:*Sergio Mena [mailto:semena@cisco.com] > *Sent:* den 13 augusti 2015 14:30 > *To:* Zaheduzzaman Sarker > *Cc:* draft-ietf-rmcat-eval-test@ietf.org; rmcat@ietf.org > *Subject:* Sections 5.1 and 5.2 of draft-ietf-rmcat-eval-test-01 > > Zahed, > > /[CCed the author list of the rmcat test cases draft, as well as the > rmcat mailing list]/ > > There was a discussion triggered at rmcat main session in Prague on > how to simulate bottleneck-link bandwidth changes. Two options were > discussed (1) changing the physical link throughput (currently > specified in the draft), and (2) using an insensitive CBR UDP flow as > background traffic. > > My understanding from the discussion during the session was that none > of these two options can simulate the other and, therefore, we somehow > need to test how candidate algorithms adapt in both cases. > > You and I then had an offline discussion on the subject in which you > suggested me to review sections 5.1 and 5.2 of the test cases draft, > and propose an alternate text to extend these two test cases to the > background traffic option. > > I have reviewed sections 5.1 and 5.2 and come up with a proposal for > extending them to using insensitive background traffic, in addition to > the current option in the text (physical link throughput change). > > Please find below what I would like to propose as updated text for 5.1 > and 5.2. [Text in square brackets are instructions to locate and > replace the original text]. > > Thanks, > > Sergio Mena > > > PS Proposed changes: > > =========== > Section 5.1 > =========== > > [In the three-bullet list after the first paragraph, change the text > in the second bullet from:] > > o change in available capacity (e.g., due to interface change, > routing change). > > [to] > > o change in available capacity (e.g., due to interface change, > routing change, sharp change in background traffic). > > --- > > [Replace the paragraph immediately after the three-bullet list > mentioned above, the one that starts with] > > It should be noted that the exact variation... > > [with the following] > > The test case defined in this section (5.1) is divided into two > subcases 5.1a and 5.1b. The main > difference is how the bottleneck-link capacity is changed in the > testbed. In 5.1a, the goal is to > simulate a modification in the underlying physical properties, such as > routing change or interface > change. In 5.1b, the goal is to simulate a sharp change in background > traffic to which the candidate > algorithm is to adapt. > > --- > > [Change the last item of testbed attributes from] > > * Competing traffic: > > + Number of sources : Zero (0) > > [to] > > * Competing traffic: > > + In 5.1a > > - Number of sources : Zero (0) > > + In 5.1b > > - Number of sources : One (1) > > - Type of sources : CBR traffic > > - Sending bitrate : See test specific information below. > > - Traffic direction : Forward > > - Congestion control : None (insensitive traffic) > > - Traffic timeline: > > - Start time : 0s > > - End time : 100s > > --- > > [Change 2nd bullet of test-specific information from] > > * This test uses bottleneck path capacity variation as listed in > Table 1 > > [to] > > * This test uses bottleneck path capacity variation as listed in > Table 1. > > - In 5.1a, the path capacity transitions are achieved by > instantly changing the > physical throughput of the bottleneck link. For simplicity, > when changing > the bottleneck link throughput, other parameters such as > queue length in > packets will be left unchanged, even if it implies that the > new queue has a > different length in milliseconds. > > - In 5.1b, the path capacity transitions are achieved by > instantly changing the > sending bitrate of the competing CBR flow. The new sending > bitrate must be > the difference between the bottleneck link-capacity (4 > Mbps, as specified in > 4.2) and the capacity specified in Table 1. > > The sharp bitrate change in the CBR flow might imply the > losses on both the > application-related traffic and the CBR flow. As a result, > the reaction of > the candidate algorithm might be different in 5.1a and in > 5.1b, hence the > distinction between the two sub-cases. > > > =========== > Section 5.2 > =========== > > [Insert this after the first paragraph of the section] > > Analogously to Section 5.1, the present test case (5.2) is divided > into two subcases 5.2a and 5.2b. > The main difference is the same: 5.2a simulates a change in the > underlying physical network properties, > such as routing change or interface change; whereas 5.2b simulates a > sharp change in background > competing traffic. > > --- > > [Change last paragraph from] > > Test Specific Information: This test uses path capacity variation as > listed in Table 2 with a corresponding end time of 125 seconds. > > [to] > > Test Specific Information: This test uses path capacity variation as > listed in Table 2 with a corresponding end time of 125 seconds. The > two media flows stop at time 124. >
- [rmcat] Sections 5.1 and 5.2 of draft-ietf-rmcat-… Sergio Mena
- Re: [rmcat] Sections 5.1 and 5.2 of draft-ietf-rm… Zaheduzzaman Sarker
- Re: [rmcat] Sections 5.1 and 5.2 of draft-ietf-rm… Sergio Mena
- Re: [rmcat] Sections 5.1 and 5.2 of draft-ietf-rm… Xiaoqing Zhu (xiaoqzhu)
- Re: [rmcat] Sections 5.1 and 5.2 of draft-ietf-rm… Zaheduzzaman Sarker
- Re: [rmcat] Sections 5.1 and 5.2 of draft-ietf-rm… Mirja Kühlewind
- Re: [rmcat] Sections 5.1 and 5.2 of draft-ietf-rm… Zaheduzzaman Sarker
- Re: [rmcat] Sections 5.1 and 5.2 of draft-ietf-rm… Sergio Mena