Re: [rmcat] Priority and rtcweb

Varun Singh <varun@callstats.io> Wed, 15 November 2017 22:51 UTC

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Thanks, I'll check it out. Since I didn’t remotely participate in the
meeting today, Was there any input from the room?
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 at 23.37, Ingemar Johansson S <
ingemar.s.johansson@ericsson.com> wrote:

> Hi
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> SCReAM supports a float priority value, in reality though I doubt that
> there is much benefit to have a higher granularity than the given values as
> we deal with live encoding with video coders that often produce a messy
> output. In the presentation today you’ll see an example of prioritization
> in the wild (page 12 in
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-rmcat-scream-experiments/
> )
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> /Ingemar
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> *From:* Varun Singh [mailto:varun@callstats.io]
> *Sent:* den 14 november 2017 04:51
> *To:* Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no>
> *Cc:* Zaheduzzaman Sarker <zaheduzzaman.sarker@ericsson.com>;
> rmcat@ietf.org; Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org>; W3C@CSIO <
> webrtc@callstats.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [rmcat] Priority and rtcweb
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> Hi Michael,
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> On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no>
> wrote:
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> Can I hijack this thread to talk about priority?
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> Priority is already defined in the API document to the following levels:
> high, medium, low, very-low.
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> These labels map to the text in the transport document
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>         Thus, when congestion occurs, a "high" priority flow will have the
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>         ability to send 8 times as much data as a "very-low" priority flow
> if
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>         both have data to send. This prioritization is independent of the
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>         media type. The details of which packet to send first are
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>         implementation defined.
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> WEBRTC API:
> https://rawgit.com/w3c/webrtc-pc/master/webrtc.html#dom-rtcprioritytype
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> There was a thread about priority in rtcweb - someone asking for a float…
> coupled-cc can easily support a float, but Harald’s transport draft doesn’t
> support it. Opinions went back and forth for a bit...
>
> I think we should get more WebRTC deployment and not more debate on small
> details that delays the work, so I don’t want to be a troublemaker and
> didn’t interfere with this discussion.
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> But, what is the view of people in rmcat about this?
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> While the API does not provide a float value, nonetheless, doesn't the
> WebRTC stack or framework under the JS API have all the information to
> convert the set labels in to a float values after the flows are assigned
> values?
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> Cheers,
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> Michael
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> On Nov 13, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Varun Singh <varun@callstats.io> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> Was there a study done for the parameters needed for congestion control? I
> know we debated this at length, were there slides created by  the
> congestion control proponents, that I can reference.
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> From the top of my head, I remember there’s
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> + priority (needed by coupled congestion control)
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> I’m asking this for w3c input. They already have max bitrate, max
> framearte, and degradation preference  degradation preference indicates
> where the bits should be allocated: in maintaining frame rates or frame
> sizes.
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> Feedback is appreciated To make sure we didn’t miss anything.
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> Cheers,
>
> Varun.
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