Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM
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Subject: Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM
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From: mwg@faline.bellcore.com (Mark W Garrett)
[ ... snip ... ]
Can people comment on what work is going on in any of {RSVP,
int-serv, rolc, IPATM, MPOA (ATM Forum)} working groups
toward creating such an API or the QOS-translation
interface? (I know of one item, which is rfc1821 by Borden
Crawley, Davie, and Batsell, which discusses the two types
of QOS descriptions and lays out some issues for interoperation).
[ ... snip ... ]
On another related point, if we look at some of the recent
dialog, it's obvious that people are carrying around
different assumptions about their networks. Here's a few
pictures of the world (some people call these things
"reference configurations"):
1) ES - Rtr(s) - ES
2) ES - LAN - ES
3) ES - LAN - Rtr(s) - LAN - ES
4) ES - LAN - Pub-ATM - LAN - ES
5) ES - LAN - Pvt-ATM - LAN - ES
6) ES - LAN - Pvt-ATM - Rtr(s) - LAN - ES
7) ES - LAN - Rtr(s) - Pub-ATM - Rtr(s) - LAN - ES
8) ES - Pvt-ATM - Rtr(s) - Pvt-ATM - ES
9) ES - Pvt-ATM - Pub-ATM - Pvt-ATM - ES
10) ES - Pvt-ATM - ES
ES = End system with IP address
LAN = Traditional broadcast-type LAN (ethernet, FDDI), not including ATM
Rtr(s) = IP Router or several routers connected by dedicated links
Pvt-ATM = private ATM cloud (part of enterprise network)
Pub-ATM = public ATM cloud (or concatenation of such)
Now, most discussions of int-serv and rsvp *seem* to
concentrate on the first configuration. (Conversely, if you
look at most ATM Forum documents, everything in the world
looks like #9.) There have been some mumblings about taking
into account the limitations and capabilities of LANs,
presumably including ATM. Perhaps being more explicit
about our assumptions will help these discussions.
Regards,
-Mark
Mark,
The RSVP group at ISI is looking at these issues. Right now we are
concentrating on the second issue ("reference configurations" other
than #1). We will be talking about our status in the IP over ATM
working group meeting at the Dallas IETF.
Cheers,
Steve
- int-serv over e.g. ATM Mark W Garrett
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM berson
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Craig Partridge
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Craig Partridge
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Curtis Villamizar
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM berson
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Lixia Zhang
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Steve Deering
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Alagu Periyannan
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Mark W Garrett
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Walter Milliken
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Steve Deering
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Mark W Garrett
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Juha Heinanen
- Re[2]: int-serv over e.g. ATM Charlie Tai
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Curtis Villamizar
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Juha Heinanen
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Mark W Garrett
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Juha Heinanen
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Jon Crowcroft
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Juha Heinanen
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Jon Crowcroft
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Curtis Villamizar
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM John Krawczyk
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Noel Chiappa
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Andrew Smith
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Andrew Smith
- Re: int-serv over e.g. ATM Curtis Villamizar