Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt
Lixia Zhang <lixia@parc.xerox.com> Thu, 26 October 1995 16:20 UTC
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> We don't need to ignore the work on RSVP and int-serv, but we also need > to remember that if a pair of hosts on a common NBMA would like to > establish a direct SVC (because of QoS and/or traffic characteristics), > then RSVP has to do with this. After all, RSVP is a protocol to reserve > resources on routers. In the scenario I described there are no routers > involved (as there is a direct SVC). The decision to establish such SVC > is controlled by the application (through an API). RSVP is *NOT* a > QoS-capable host API. > > Yakov. I was not on rolc list but a friend forwarded the above msg to me. I disagree (of course with the caveat that I do not know the full context of this discussion). The above quote suggests that the host has to have at least two API interfaces for QoS management, one copes with the case of the other end being on a directly connected ATM network, and a second one handle more general case of QoS over the Internet (even there some fragments along the path may be ATM subnets). Fine. But does this also suggest that, when some BTM technology shows up next year, we'd add a third QoS API to handle that??? What about a multicast application, and a new member want to join but is not on the same ATM net? Yes RSVP is a protocol that makes reservations on IP boxes; hosts are IP-speaking boxes too. Therefore I do consider RSVP API as a general QoS-capable host API. As I said already, some parts of the greater Internet may be made of ATM subnets, therefore RSVP necessarily has to handle all the issues of interfacing with ATM. And when BTM shows up, RSVP, as a resource reservation protocol for the Internet, is obligated to handle that too. Why should we have a separate API for a new subnet type? I do not recall we ever had an Ethernet API. Think in terms of a global picture. Dont be too near-sighted; get a new pair of glasses. Lixia
- Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Andrew G. Malis
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Yakov Rekhter
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Yakov Rekhter
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Andrew Smith
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Yakov Rekhter
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Dilip Kandlur
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Andrew Smith
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Dilip Kandlur
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Andrew Smith
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Dilip Kandlur
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Andrew Smith
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Yakov Rekhter
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Yakov Rekhter
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Yakov Rekhter
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Yakov Rekhter
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Yakov Rekhter
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Andrew Smith
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Yakov Rekhter
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Joel Halpern
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Yakov Rekhter
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Steve Deering
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Tim Salo
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Yakov Rekhter
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Tim Salo
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Yakov Rekhter
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Tim Salo
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Yakov Rekhter
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Juha Heinanen
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Juha Heinanen
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Juha Heinanen
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Juha Heinanen
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Juha Heinanen
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Lixia Zhang
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Juha Heinanen
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- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Yakov Rekhter
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Hiroshi Esaki
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Yakov Rekhter
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Joel Halpern
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Yakov Rekhter
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Fred Baker
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Fred Baker
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Andrew Smith
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Andrew G. Malis
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Last Call for draft-ietf-rolc-apr-00.txt Andrew Smith