Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January
IJsbrand Wijnands <ice@cisco.com> Wed, 14 November 2018 08:14 UTC
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Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 09:14:43 +0100
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Subject: Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January
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Hi Folks, Is there already an agenda of topics and/or goals set for the interim? Thx, Ice. > On 14 Nov 2018, at 01:49, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com> wrote: > > I created a doodle, > > please indicate any day you could be there: https://doodle.com/poll/a4qc62fvyw82sk4u > I can have a room with roughly 15 people, maybe a few more. But I need to get the date early to reserve the room while it is available. > Then we'll decide how many days ina row we need, and whether we wish to be contiguous to a week end so you guys can enjoy the sea of the ski. > Take care, > > Pascal > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Roll-bier-dt <roll-bier-dt-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Toerless >> Eckert >> Sent: mardi 13 novembre 2018 16:30 >> To: Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com> >> Cc: Peter van der Stok <stokcons@bbhmail.nl>; roll-bier-dt@ietf.org; >> consultancy@vanderstok.org >> Subject: Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January >> >> I think we shuold be fine to organize it as a meeting of the BIER DT indicating >> that WG members not interested in this set of work items should not have to >> be present. >> >> We should still announce it to the WG and make sure attendence is open, we >> set up the IETF ROLL webex during the interim to enable remote access and >> share slides on it during the meeting. Also the rooms handsfree we have work >> quite well for remote participants. >> >> I only attended on in-person interim, which was a BIER interim in hmm... end >> of 2016 in San Jose, and it was a WG interrim, but i think all the technical >> aspects where as described above. >> >> Aka: no big different except the official scope and maybe any other official WG >> interim procedural aspects alvaro would remind us of as necessary. >> >> Cheers >> Toerless >> >> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 04:14:16AM -0500, Alvaro Retana wrote: >>> On November 13, 2018 at 4:50:42 PM, Peter van der Stok >>> (stokcons@bbhmail.nl) >>> wrote: >>> >>>> HI Alvaro, >>>> >>>> It is originally a DT meeting. >>>> >>> Ok, that???s what I thought. >>> >>>> What is the subtle difference between interim and dt meeting, both >>>> in the context of IETF ROLL/ BIER >>>> >>> The difference is simply who is expected to be there and whether it >>> needs to be advertised beyond this mailing list or not. >>> >>> The DT is free to meet whenever you want ??? just coordinate among >>> yourselves and that???s it. >>> >>> A WG Interim is just like a meeting at the IETF, where the whole WG is >>> expected to know about the details and participate. The only >>> difference with respect to a meeting at the IETF is that it is >>> somewhere else, either virtual (WebEx, Zoom, etc.) or in-person. This >>> one we have to advertise to the whole WG, provide remote access, etc.. >>> >>> Alvaro. >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> Alvaro Retana schreef op 2018-11-13 07:36: >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> Process/terminology question: we're talking about a DT meeting, not >>>> a WG Interim (maybe focused on roll-bier), right? >>>> >>>> I'm ok with either. >>>> >>>> If we're talking about a physical WG interim, then there are time >>>> frames we need to keep an eye on. Specifically, we need to make a >>>> formal announcement at least 4 weeks in advance. >>>> >>>> On November 8, 2018 at 3:14:34 PM, Peter van der Stok >>>> (stokcons@bbhmail.nl) >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> This is to remind you that an interim was proposed in Nice (with >>>>> support from Pascal) in the month of January. >>>>> Please have a look at your agenda to see when this is feasible. >>>>> In the limit we might organize a wild weekend (with partners welcome). >>>>> >>>>> Peter >>>>> -- >>>>> Peter van der Stok >>>>> vanderstok consultancy >>>>> mailto: consultancy@vanderstok.org, stokcons@bbhmail.nl >>>>> www: www.vanderstok.org >>>>> tel NL: +31(0)492474673 F: +33(0)966015248 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Roll-bier-dt mailing list >>>>> Roll-bier-dt@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll-bier-dt >>>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Alvaro. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Roll-bier-dt mailing list >>>> Roll-bier-dt@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll-bier-dt >>>> >>>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Roll-bier-dt mailing list >>> Roll-bier-dt@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll-bier-dt >> >> >> -- >> --- >> tte@cs.fau.de >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Roll-bier-dt mailing list >> Roll-bier-dt@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll-bier-dt > > _______________________________________________ > Roll-bier-dt mailing list > Roll-bier-dt@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll-bier-dt
- [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January Peter van der Stok
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January Tony Przygienda
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January Greg Shepherd
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January Alvaro Retana
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January Peter van der Stok
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January Alvaro Retana
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January IJsbrand Wijnands
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January Peter van der Stok
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Bier interim in January Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January Tony Przygienda
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January Alvaro Retana
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January Alvaro Retana
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January Alvaro Retana
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January Peter van der Stok