Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January

IJsbrand Wijnands <ice@cisco.com> Wed, 14 November 2018 08:14 UTC

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Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 09:14:43 +0100
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Subject: Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January
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Hi Folks,

Is there already an agenda of topics and/or goals set for the interim? 

Thx,

Ice. 

> On 14 Nov 2018, at 01:49, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com>; wrote:
> 
> I created a doodle, 
> 
> please indicate any day you could be there: https://doodle.com/poll/a4qc62fvyw82sk4u 
> I can have a room with roughly 15 people, maybe a few more. But I need to get the date early to reserve the room while it is available.
> Then we'll decide how many days ina row we need, and whether we wish to be contiguous to a week end so you guys can enjoy the sea of the ski.
> Take care,
> 
> Pascal
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Roll-bier-dt <roll-bier-dt-bounces@ietf.org>; On Behalf Of Toerless
>> Eckert
>> Sent: mardi 13 novembre 2018 16:30
>> To: Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com>;
>> Cc: Peter van der Stok <stokcons@bbhmail.nl>;; roll-bier-dt@ietf.org;
>> consultancy@vanderstok.org
>> Subject: Re: [Roll-bier-dt] Fwd: Bier interim in January
>> 
>> I think we shuold be fine to organize it as a meeting of the BIER DT indicating
>> that WG members not interested in this set of work items should not have to
>> be present.
>> 
>> We should still announce it to the WG and make sure attendence is open, we
>> set up the IETF ROLL webex during the interim to enable remote access and
>> share slides on it during the meeting. Also the rooms handsfree we have work
>> quite well for remote participants.
>> 
>> I only attended on in-person interim, which was a BIER interim in hmm... end
>> of 2016 in San Jose, and it was a WG interrim, but i think all the technical
>> aspects where as described above.
>> 
>> Aka: no big different except the official scope and maybe any other official WG
>> interim procedural aspects alvaro would remind us of as necessary.
>> 
>> Cheers
>>    Toerless
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 04:14:16AM -0500, Alvaro Retana wrote:
>>> On November 13, 2018 at 4:50:42 PM, Peter van der Stok
>>> (stokcons@bbhmail.nl)
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> HI Alvaro,
>>>> 
>>>> It is originally a DT meeting.
>>>> 
>>> Ok, that???s what I thought.
>>> 
>>>> What is the subtle difference between interim and dt meeting, both
>>>> in the context of IETF ROLL/ BIER
>>>> 
>>> The difference is simply who is expected to be there and whether it
>>> needs to be advertised beyond this mailing list or not.
>>> 
>>> The DT is free to meet whenever you want ??? just coordinate among
>>> yourselves and that???s it.
>>> 
>>> A WG Interim is just like a meeting at the IETF, where the whole WG is
>>> expected to know  about the details and participate.  The only
>>> difference with respect to a meeting at the IETF is that it is
>>> somewhere else, either virtual (WebEx, Zoom, etc.) or in-person.  This
>>> one we have to advertise to the whole WG, provide remote access, etc..
>>> 
>>> Alvaro.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Peter
>>>> 
>>>> Alvaro Retana schreef op 2018-11-13 07:36:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> 
>>>> Process/terminology question:  we're talking about a DT meeting, not
>>>> a WG Interim (maybe focused on roll-bier), right?
>>>> 
>>>> I'm ok with either.
>>>> 
>>>> If we're talking about a physical WG interim, then there are time
>>>> frames we need to keep an eye on.  Specifically, we need to make a
>>>> formal announcement at least 4 weeks in advance.
>>>> 
>>>> On November 8, 2018 at 3:14:34 PM, Peter van der Stok
>>>> (stokcons@bbhmail.nl)
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is to remind you that an interim was proposed in Nice (with
>>>>> support from Pascal) in the month of January.
>>>>> Please have a look at your agenda to see when this is feasible.
>>>>> In the limit we might organize a wild weekend (with partners welcome).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Peter
>>>>> --
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>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Alvaro.
>>>> 
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