Re: [Roll] home-building-requirements section 7.1
peter van der Stok <stokcons@xs4all.nl> Mon, 24 November 2014 07:17 UTC
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From: peter van der Stok <stokcons@xs4all.nl>
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Subject: Re: [Roll] home-building-requirements section 7.1
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HI Michael, thanks for the encouragement. Concerning bootstrap and security in general. Many things are going on and there are two approaches to this document: 1) a conservative one; restrict to what exists and is is proven to work 2) leaving the doubt that exists today. For the moment I like to leave the doubt, because in 5 years, what is sure today will not be implemented is my conviction Concerning switching on/off: That is SDO stuff; KNX , BACnet , etc... are preparing additional standards. What are enrollment tools? Peter Michael Richardson schreef op 2014-11-23 22:16: > I am very pleased with the document; I hope the WG is reading it, and > is > also happy with it. > > In secton 7.1 you mention use of PANA to secure new nodes. > The reference seems very hesistant, and the DTLS relay is just kind of > thrown in. Can you make this recommendation more concrete? Or remove > it. > > If it's PANA, I assume EAP is involved, and so what what EAP methods > should > be used? > > I think that, having read this document, I ought to be able to create a > light-bulb or light switch --- I think that I can make it function in > the > network, but I don't think it will use the same enrollment tools at > all, and > I'd sure like to change that. I don't mind being really really > specific > here: I encourage it. > > I also don't know what protocol to use for turning lights on/off, but I > acknowledge that is out of scope for the ROLL WG to specify. Perhaps > there > is an informative reference I missed. > > I think that unless you have a specific way to use the DTLS relay, you > should > remove the reference -- it doesn't help anyone trying to implement an > interoperable device.
- [Roll] home-building-requirements section 7.1 Michael Richardson
- Re: [Roll] home-building-requirements section 7.1 peter van der Stok
- Re: [Roll] home-building-requirements section 7.1 peter van der Stok
- Re: [Roll] home-building-requirements section 7.1 Michael Richardson
- Re: [Roll] home-building-requirements section 7.1 peter van der Stok
- Re: [Roll] home-building-requirements section 7.1 yoshihiro.ohba
- [Roll] home-building-requirements section 7.2 Rene Struik
- Re: [Roll] home-building-requirements section 7.2 peter van der Stok
- Re: [Roll] home-building-requirements section 7.1 peter van der Stok
- Re: [Roll] home-building-requirements section 7.1 yoshihiro.ohba
- Re: [Roll] home-building-requirements section 7.1 peter van der Stok