Re: [Roll] Border router failure detection

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Mon, 02 March 2020 19:11 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Roll] Border router failure detection
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Welcome!

Konrad Iwanicki <iwanicki@mimuw.edu.pl> wrote:
    > In a nutshell, I would like to propose an extension to RPL that had been
    > invented to significantly improve handling crashes of border routers. Since I
    > have little experience writing RFC-like drafts, I would greatly appreciate
    > any help.

Use the markdown method, and use someone's template github.

    > What we observed, however, is that RPL does not efficiently handle crashes of
    > border routers [1][2]. Upon such a failure, tearing down nonexistent upward
    > routes can take a lot of time (depending on the data-plane traffic) and
    > generate considerable control traffic, which is problematic in many
    > applications.

Rahul and Pascal (and others) have had a lot of conversation about how we
deal with the various lollipop counters.  So I am interested in what your
border router does when it boots: how does it announce the new DIOs?

    > What we did to address the problem was developing an algorithm, called RNFD,
    > in which nodes collaborate to monitor the state of a border router of the
    > DODAG they belong to [1]. Experiments with a TinyOS implementation of the
    > algorithm on two testbeds (32 nodes at 2.4GHz and 76 nodes at 868MHz) and in
    > simulations show that it can outperform bare RPL: it can detect a border
    > router crash one or two orders of magnitude faster and with much lower
    > control traffic [1].

okay.

    > [1] K. Iwanicki: “RNFD: Routing-Layer Detection of DODAG (Root) Node Failures
    > in Low-Power Wireless Networks,” in IPSN 2016: Proceedings of the 15th
    > ACM/IEEE International Conference on Information Processing in Sensor
    > Networks. IEEE. Vienna, Austria. April 2016. pp. 1—12. DOI:
    > 10.1109/IPSN.2016.7460720

Unfortunately, it's behind the IEEE paywall.
I have given up on getting documents from the IEEE.
I guess you have been working on this for at least five years now.

    > [2] A. Paszkowska and K. Iwanicki: “Failure Handling in RPL Implementations:
    > An Experimental Qualitative Study,” in Mission-Oriented Sensor Networks and
    > Systems: Art and Science (Habib M. Ammari ed.). Springer International
    > Publishing. Cham, Switzerland. September 2019. pp. 49—95. DOI:
    > 10.1007/978-3-319-91146-5_3

    > [3] P. Ciolkosz: “Integration of the RNFD Algorithm for Border Router Failure
    > Detection with the RPL Standard for Routing IPv6 Packets,” Master's Thesis,
    > University of Warsaw. November 2019.

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