Re: [Roll] Border router failure detection
Konrad Iwanicki <iwanicki@mimuw.edu.pl> Thu, 17 March 2022 13:35 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Roll] Border router failure detection
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Dear all, Since the RNFD draft has been adopted by the group, I am expected to propose a set of work items on which we could iterate to progress on the draft. To this end, I went through our e-mails and meeting recordings and decided to just briefly summarize the status so far and propose some starting point. # Status RNFD is an addition to RPL that improves detecting crashes of DODAG roots by all DODAG members. The algorithm essentially boils down to nodes voting and achieving consensus on whether the root has crashed. The improvement regards only the performance and not the ability to detect root crashes: RPL alone can do this but the process is slow and generates heavy traffic. From our discussions, it seems that the problem seems important but the current RNFD algorithm is not necessarily the final one. # Starting point I am an author of the draft and it is hard for me to come up with a way to improve the algorithm. However, Pascal had an interesting idea, which may be worth exploring. More specifically, achieving consensus in RNFD is done in such a way that the root node need not be involved. As long as the network remains connected, the nodes are able to conclude that the root has crashed, irrespective of how degenerated the DODAG may be because of the crash. What Pascal suggested (or at least what I understood) is that involving the root and using perhaps a different consensus algorithm may be worth considering. I think we could try to organize the initial work items around this idea to see if we can improve the RNFD algorithm or replace it with something else. What do you think about this starting point? Or perhaps do you have suggestions of other work items? (Also, I believe that discussing the work items should first be done asynchronously/offline. However, if you prefer allocating a slot at IETF 113, please do let me know.) Best, -- - Konrad Iwanicki.
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