Re: [Roll] Stephen Farrell's No Objection on draft-ietf-roll-applicability-ami-14: (with COMMENT)

"Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)" <ncamwing@cisco.com> Tue, 27 September 2016 12:16 UTC

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From: "Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)" <ncamwing@cisco.com>
To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Roll] Stephen Farrell's No Objection on draft-ietf-roll-applicability-ami-14: (with COMMENT)
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Hi Stephen,


On 9/27/16, 4:53 AM, "Stephen Farrell" <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:

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>COMMENT:
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>
>Thanks for the changes in response to my discuss ballot.
>
>In the new privacy considerations section I think there
>are two changes still needed:
>
>1) The reference to I_D.thaler... should be to
>draft-ietf-6lo-privacy-considerations which replaced
>the Dave Thaler's individual draft.
[NCW] My bad, will provide the update.

> 
>
>2) RFC6550 doesn't contain the term "privacy" at all
>so I'm not sure what section(s) you're referring to there.
[NCW] I was mapping it to the 6lo-privacy-considerations draft, but yes
As it doesn’t contain privacy I can remove this reference.

>
>[DEVCC] does however seem to cover the issues, so
>I've cleared my discuss. That said, I'm not sure if
>the privacy considerations for deployments outside
>the US may be significantly different, (I would not
>be surprised if they are) so I'd  encourage you to also
>search for and reference e.g. a European equivalent
>document if there is one available. I've not read it
>but maybe [1], or some of the references contained
>in [1] might be useful.
>
>   [1]
>http://publications.lib.chalmers.se/records/fulltext/215870/215870.pdf
[NCW] This may be a good one, but I will double check to see if there are
Others that may be as if not more relevant.

[NCW] As to the OLD comments below, they were also addressed in the draft
already
(I had sent a response to those a very long while ago!)….

	Nancy

>
>OLD COMMENTS below - I didn't check 'em.
>
>- 1.3: what's the 3rd bullet mean? It's worded very
>ambiguously. With s/(vs. non-storing)// it'd be clear.
>
>- section 3: "a potentially significant portion of which
>is taken up by protocol and encryption overhead" seems
>overstated to me - are there numbers to back that up?
>
>- 5.1, last sentence: why is it important to note that?
>explaining would be good
>
>- 7.2.3: I don't get what you're telling me here that
>assists in security or interop?
>
>- section 9: please provide references to back up the
>assertion that "many available security mechanisms are not
>practical for use in such networks" for some relevant
>security mechanisms. The problem is that such assertions
>are used to justify doing nothing at all so they ought not
>be blithely made.
>
>- 9.1: "are unique per device" etc is the only sensible
>thing and would be nice if always true, but that is often
>not the case - why state what's known to not be true? Or
>are you trying to say something else?
>
>- 9.2: "it is replaced" - again that's not true, only
>devices known to be compromised would be replaced, which
>is by no means all compromised devices
>
>- 9.3: "already existing" - you really should have a
>reference there.
>
>