Re: [Roll] Published draft-ietf-roll-unaware-leaves-03

Michael Richardson <> Mon, 02 September 2019 14:59 UTC

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Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <> wrote:
    > *   Modified RPL to indicate that Non-Storing signaling MUST be used
    > for External routes signaled by the 'E' flag in the transit
    > option. This will happen even in storing Mode. The reason is to be able
    > to tunnel to the 6LR (that appears as in the Transit option) in order
    > to get rid of RPL artifacts and RFC 8138 compression before the packet
    > is forwarded externally.

This is quite an interesting thing to do, and I think that it brings us
another step step closer to some kind of hybrid storing/non-storing mode.
DAO-projection is obviously the other step.

Many in the WG might not know, but at one point the WG thought that storing and
non-storing operation would be local choices, but it turned out not to work
that way.

    > *   Signal the capability by the root to proxy the EDAR in behalf of
    > the 6LR. Should we use the MOP draft or make it protocol independent
    > with 6CIO so any routing protocol could be used to proxy?

I think we should use the root-announced (non-negotiated) capability.

    > *   Impact on useofrplinfo: the change that the (E flag) =>
    > (non-storing signaling + tunnel to the 6LR)


    > Since those specs are not published yet, we could piggy-back the
    > changes there but that means taking the drafts off the RFC editor's
    > hands.

I think that the useofrplinfo change affects only two (maybe) four of the 24
cases, and the case remains where we have an IPv6 Host only.
So I think it is better to Updates: useofrplinfo.

Michael Richardson <>, Sandelman Software Works
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