Re: [Roll] Interest in opportunistic routing?
Simon Duquennoy <simonduq@sics.se> Sat, 08 March 2014 16:59 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Roll] Interest in opportunistic routing?
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Dear Ines, Do you mean you see ORPL fitting 6TiSCH? I was mostly targeting ROLL, as I see ORPL as a mac-independent addition to RPL. That being said, yes, thanks for the invite, I'll definitely consider presenting it at the next plugfest (potentially along with a TSCH implementation in Contiki that we hope to have by then). Best regards, Simon On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Ines Robles <mariainesrobles@googlemail.com>wrote: > Hi Simon, > > Thank you very much for share ORPL with us. > > I think it would be good to present it in the plugfests in next IETFs, in > case that it takes place. > > The plugfest for this last IETF [ > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/slides/slides-89-6tisch-0.pdf] > starting in slide 65. > > Kind Regards, > > Ines. > > > 2014-03-07 15:17 GMT-03:00 Simon Duquennoy <simonduq@sics.se>: > >> As a complement: >> * a visualization of ORPL during a 60-minute run: >> http://simonduquennoy.net/resources/orpl-animation.html >> * the slides of the SenSys'13 presentation: >> http://simonduquennoy.net/resources/131111-oprl-sensys.pptx >> >> Thanks, >> Simon >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Simon Duquennoy <simonduq@sics.se> wrote: >> >>> Dear Pascal, >>> >>> AFAICT it does go along the same lines as Quentin's work. The main >>> difference is that we support addressable nodes, i.e. not only upwards but >>> also downwards routing. >>> >>> As you're asking for more, let me elaborate a bit on how I see our >>> protocol (ORPL) integrated in RPL :) >>> * routing decision (assuming storing mode): the forwarding decision is >>> made at the receiver, not at the sender. Upon receiving a packet, a node >>> decides whether to forward it based on (1) its rank and (2) the inclusion >>> of the destination IPv6 address into its routing table. >>> - If the packet is going up and the node has a lower rank then it will >>> forward with upwards anycast. >>> - If the packet is going up or down and the node has a higher rank, >>> and the destination IPv6 address is in the routing table (i.e. the >>> destination is below in the DODAG) then it will forward with downwards >>> anycast. >>> One interesting thing is any-to-any routing is that ORPL has many more >>> common ancestors to use than RPL. In our experiments, any-to-any routing is >>> where the benefits of ORPL are most significant, with the latency between >>> leaf nodes improved with a factor up to 15 (case where RPL has a common >>> ancestor several hops away whereas ORPL exploits many ancestors closer to >>> the source and destination). >>> * routing tables: the standard RPL tables will do. It is however worth >>> noting that because anycast transmission do not target a specific receiver, >>> all we need at every node is not a full routing table (<destination,next >>> hop> pairs) but only a set of reachable destinations. This makes the table >>> potentially more compact. In the paper we investigate fancy structures for >>> this such as Bloom filter but I regard this as out of the scope for a >>> potential integration in standard RPL. >>> * routing metric: ORPL can work with any routing metric, the only >>> requirement is to have a DODAG. In the SenSys'13 paper we use our own >>> metric, which is opportunistic routing-oriented. It helps but isn't >>> strictly required (could possibly be the object of a separate draft) >>> >>> Regarding performance: our testbed experiments are on duty-cycled >>> 802.15.4 nodes. We get great reliability. In the current implementation of >>> ORPL (posterior to the paper) we have most of the runs with 100% delivery >>> ratio (about 1500 packets sent and received end-to-end during the course of >>> an hour). The reason is that ORPL is not affected at all by isolated link >>> losses. It doesn't even notice it. If the link a parent is dead for some >>> time then another parent will forward the packet. The other side benefits >>> are latency and energy: when having duty cycled nodes, anycast nicely uses >>> the first that wakes up and gets the packet successfully, making the wakeup >>> procedure cheaper. A final note: opportunistic routing is great especially >>> in dense environments, as there are more links to exploit. In sparser >>> environments, as far as we have observed, the benefits reduce but are still >>> present. >>> >>> The SenSys'13 paper contains a detailed design and thorough experimental >>> evaluation: >>> http://www.simonduquennoy.net/papers/duquennoy13orpl.pdf >>> >>> If you want to know even more, I'm open to having a phone call. >>> >>> Best, >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) < >>> pthubert@cisco.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I'd love to hear more. This work reminds me of interesting Results >>>> Quentin showed at his PhD... >>>> >>>> Pascal >>>> >>>> Le 7 mars 2014 à 14:47, "Simon Duquennoy" <simonduq@sics.se> a écrit : >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Michael Richardson < >>>> mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Simon Duquennoy <simonduq@sics.se> wrote: >>>>> > We have designed an opportunistic extension of RPL, where the >>>>> basic idea is to >>>>> > exploit all links of the DODAG rather than the tree defined by >>>>> links to >>>>> > preferred parents. We do this using anycast: transmissions are >>>>> intended either >>>>> > (upwards) to any parent or (downwards) to any child having the >>>>> destination >>>>> > below in the DODAG. >>>>> >>>>> This is very interesting. >>>>> >>>>> > We have a working prototype [1] in Contiki that we evaluated >>>>> thoroughly in a >>>>> > 135-node testbed [2]. In a 4-min packet interval data >>>>> collection, we increase >>>>> > the reliability of RPL from 97.4 to 99.5%, while halving the >>>>> latency (below >>>>> > 0.5s) and radio duty cycle (below 0.5%). >>>>> >>>>> > If there is interest, we can come up with a simplified version >>>>> of the design >>>>> > presented in the paper, and propose a way to integrate it in RPL >>>>> through only a >>>>> > few minor additions. To be more specific, the simplified version >>>>> would use the >>>>> > existing RPL routing tables rather than Bloom filters, and would >>>>> be MAC-layer >>>>> > agnostic (the only assumption being that the MAC layer supports >>>>> > anycast). >>>>> >>>>> I'm not familliar with the concept of anycast at layer-2. >>>>> I think that ethernet supports this, but that actually one would have >>>>> the >>>>> multicast bit set. I think that you'd have to do the same thing on >>>>> 802.11. >>>>> I guess that 15.4 has a specific support for this, or is just a choice >>>>> of a >>>>> particular unicast mac? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Michael, all, >>>> >>>> There is no specific support for anycast in 802.15.4, but the >>>> standard MAC layers can easily be used for anycast (often by setting >>>> multicast/broadcast + ACK bits). >>>> I've see prototypes for 802.15.4 beacon-enabled [1], for a 15.4e >>>> RIT-like MAC [2], and for a CSL-like MAC (our own implementation uses >>>> ContikiMAC, which is similar CSL). >>>> Should also be possible with 15.4 TSCH or even 802.11 PSM. >>>> Doing this on an always-on link like ethernet or traditional 802.11 is >>>> more tricky because you need an agreement procedure so that only one >>>> neighbor that received the packet forwards it. There exist solutions for >>>> WiFi, such as ExOR [3], which introduced opportunistic for 802.11 back in >>>> 2005. I don't think we want to go into this though; I'd rather simply >>>> stipulate that anycast is required at the MAC layer and possibly give some >>>> hints on how to support it on the most common MAC protocols. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Simon >>>> >>>> [1] >>>> http://clarinet.u-strasbg.fr/~theoleyre/uploads/Publis/pavkovic11rpl.pdf >>>> [2] http://www.ti5.tuhh.de/publications/2012/EWSN12_Orinoco.pdf >>>> [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExOR_(wireless_network_protocol) >>>> >>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works >>>>> IETF ROLL WG co-chair. http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/roll/charter/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Roll mailing list >>>>> Roll@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Roll mailing list >>>> Roll@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Roll mailing list >>>> Roll@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Roll mailing list >> Roll@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > >
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