Re: [Roll] Node Ability to Participate (NAP)

Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> Fri, 08 June 2012 03:48 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Roll] Node Ability to Participate (NAP)
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Hi Pascal,

I was thinking of route-control enhancement, not network management,
however, I agree it is an iteresting issue as well, you gave me a new
point, thanks,

Abdussalam Baryun
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On 6/7/12, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com> wrote:
> Hello Abdussalam:
>
> I'd say it is a great discussion that might end up impacting routing. But
> also basic network operations (DNS, DHCP ...) and services.
> So where is the right place to start with?
> Tthe COMA mailing list is starting about network management, and I'd have
> thought that your discussion could begin there.
>
> What do you think?
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> Pascal
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> From: roll-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Abdussalam Baryun
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> Subject: [Roll] Node Ability to Participate (NAP)
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> +++++++++++++++++  Possible Duplication +++++++++++++++++++++++
> Hi All,
>
> I want to discuss is there a need to consider the node ability to
> participate (NAP) in LLN functions?
>
> I think that the node ability (considering; energy consumption issue,
> routing issue, and environment-event issue), it is good for some
> node-originators to know neighbor nodes/sinks ability ( NAP to-route, or NAP
> continue-to-route, or NAP to-survive, NAP to-store, NAP to-manage, or other
> abilities), but not sure if it is available in some of the ROLL or 6lowpan
> protocols, nor sure if it can make side effects to LLN performance. The
> node-ability can be useful if we have different devices capabilities and
> conditions. This knowledge-factor can be useful and may be included in some
> technique, or forwarding table in the protocol specification.
>
> I want to know your advises and opinion, thanking you,
>
> Best regards
>
> Abdussalam Baryun,
> University of Glamorgan, UK.
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