Re: [Roll] Node Ability to Participate (NAP)

C Chauvenet <c.chauvenet@watteco.com> Fri, 22 June 2012 10:13 UTC

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From: C Chauvenet <c.chauvenet@watteco.com>
To: 'Abdussalam Baryun' <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>, "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
Thread-Topic: [Roll] Node Ability to Participate (NAP)
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Hi, 

Could RFC6551 (the ex-metric draft) help ?

I think the metric container option could  embed a constraint to adress the NAP functionality you are describing 

Best,

Cédric.
-----Message d'origine-----
De : roll-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Abdussalam Baryun
Envoyé : vendredi 8 juin 2012 05:48
À : Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
Cc : roll; roll-owner
Objet : Re: [Roll] Node Ability to Participate (NAP)

Hi Pascal,

I was thinking of route-control enhancement, not network management, however, I agree it is an iteresting issue as well, you gave me a new point, thanks,

Abdussalam Baryun
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On 6/7/12, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com> wrote:
> Hello Abdussalam:
>
> I'd say it is a great discussion that might end up impacting routing. 
> But also basic network operations (DNS, DHCP ...) and services.
> So where is the right place to start with?
> Tthe COMA mailing list is starting about network management, and I'd 
> have thought that your discussion could begin there.
>
> What do you think?
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> Cheers,
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> Pascal
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> From: roll-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf 
> Of Abdussalam Baryun
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> Subject: [Roll] Node Ability to Participate (NAP)
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> +++++++++++++++++  Possible Duplication +++++++++++++++++++++++
> Hi All,
>
> I want to discuss is there a need to consider the node ability to 
> participate (NAP) in LLN functions?
>
> I think that the node ability (considering; energy consumption issue, 
> routing issue, and environment-event issue), it is good for some 
> node-originators to know neighbor nodes/sinks ability ( NAP to-route, 
> or NAP continue-to-route, or NAP to-survive, NAP to-store, NAP 
> to-manage, or other abilities), but not sure if it is available in 
> some of the ROLL or 6lowpan protocols, nor sure if it can make side 
> effects to LLN performance. The node-ability can be useful if we have 
> different devices capabilities and conditions. This knowledge-factor 
> can be useful and may be included in some technique, or forwarding table in the protocol specification.
>
> I want to know your advises and opinion, thanking you,
>
> Best regards
>
> Abdussalam Baryun,
> University of Glamorgan, UK.
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