Re: [Roll] About merging two RFC drafts: draft-ietf-roll-enrollment-priority and DODAG size

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From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
To: "Huimin She (hushe)" <hushe@cisco.com>, Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>, "rahul.ietf@gmail.com" <rahul.ietf@gmail.com>
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Thread-Topic: About merging two RFC drafts: draft-ietf-roll-enrollment-priority and DODAG size
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Subject: Re: [Roll] About merging two RFC drafts: draft-ietf-roll-enrollment-priority and DODAG size
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Dear all 

As agreed at the interim, I pushed some changes in the draft to add the DODAG Size to the new option.

I leave the ball to Huimin to take more of his original work and complete the changes.

My own diffset is here 
https://github.com/roll-wg/draft-ietf-roll-enrollment-priority/commit/e3d3d0b57ba6339b292718670ae4332730ffb03d

for now I commented out 
<!--  
It may also be added by a router on part of the sub-tree as a result of some (out of scope for this document) management function.
6LRs that see this DIO Option SHOULD increment their minimum enrollment priority if they observe congestion on the channel used for enrollment traffic.
The exact mechanism is a local decision, and may be the subject for future work.
-->

I'm concerned that the undocumented/future behavior will create comments at the IESG. 
My observation is that we should either define the process fully or not mention it at all.
Also, the common practice for DIO values that they are set by the Root and propagated unchanged seems relevant here to start with, so I reworded the github text in that direction.

Please feel free to comment / contradict, it's easy to roll back any of the above.

Keep safe;

Pascal