Re: [Roll] Remaining issues on draft-ietf-roll-nsa-extension
Remous-Aris Koutsiamanis <aris@ariskou.com> Fri, 27 March 2020 16:52 UTC
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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 17:52:51 +0100
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Subject: Re: [Roll] Remaining issues on draft-ietf-roll-nsa-extension
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Hello Ines, Thank you very much for the feedback and confirmations. We have addressed them and we have uploaded draft-ietf-roll-nsa-extension-08 with all the changes. Please find the responses inline. On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 10:59 PM Ines Robles <mariainesrobles@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi Aris, > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 6:24 PM Remous-Aris Koutsiamanis <aris@ariskou.com> > wrote: > >> Two small issues remain: >> >> a) Compression of the PS IPv6 addresses. >> Rahul brought this up in his review, we mentioned that this was proposed >> before, implemented and then re-removed because of the plan to have a draft >> that performs compression on all RPL control traffic packets (following >> Pascal's and Dominique's advice). >> *Question: is there any chance this has changed and we might want to >> perform compression on the PS field specifically after all?* >> > > I think the compression can take place in a separate draft. > OK, great, we agree. So we'll leave this as is for now. > >> b) Change of the context of the PS NSA object from a constraint to a >> metric. >> Following Dominique's suggestion we changed it from a constraint to a >> recorded (R=1), partial (P=1) metric (C=0). >> The issue is that we are extending MRHOF and MRHOF supports the use of a >> single metric for computing the rank. >> It is true that the PS NSA object is not used for rank calculation, and >> we have clarified this. >> However, there might be still a conflict or a point to be clarified. >> See in MRHOF Section 2 Terminology >> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6719.html#section-2>: >> "Selected metric: The metric chosen for path selection by the network >> operator. MRHOF supports using a single metric for path selection." >> > > Maybe you could add this to the section 4 and explain how the extending > MRHOF address this point. > We have added an extra explanation in section 4, modifying the related text from MRHOF Section 2. We think it should be clear now. > >> VS our draft Section 5.1 "Usage" >> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-roll-nsa-extension-07#section-5.1> >> : >> "It is important that the PS does not affect the calculation of the rank >> through candidate neighbors. It is only used with the CA OF to remove >> nodes which do not fulfill the CA OF criteria from the candidate neighbor >> list." >> *Question: Is this sufficient in terms of explanation?* >> > > Section 5 is clear to me. > Great, so this is also clear. > > Thank you, > > Ines. > Again, thanks a lot! Best, Aris and Georgios > >> >> We would really appreciate answers on these, if possible of course, >> before the ROLL meeting so that we can update/finalize the drafts. >> >> Kind regards, >> Aris & Georgios >> >> >>
- [Roll] Remaining issues on draft-ietf-roll-nsa-ex… Remous-Aris Koutsiamanis
- Re: [Roll] Remaining issues on draft-ietf-roll-ns… Ines Robles
- Re: [Roll] Remaining issues on draft-ietf-roll-ns… Remous-Aris Koutsiamanis