Re: [Roll] [roll] #132: draft-ietf-roll-trickle-mcast-04 - Clarify scope value of 3 - subnet-local

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Tue, 15 October 2013 16:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Roll] [roll] #132: draft-ietf-roll-trickle-mcast-04 - Clarify scope value of 3 - subnet-local
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Ralph Droms (rdroms) <rdroms@cisco.com> wrote:
    > What is your definition for "subnet" that is compatible with the
    > definition from draft-ietf-6man-multicast-scopes:

    >   automatically configured, i.e., automatically derived from physical
    > connectivity or other, non-multicast-related configuration.

    > I chose PAN ID as a way of identifying a "subnet" within a distribution
    > of MPL forwarders that might be within radio range of each other but
    > should be in separate MPL domains.  For example, suppose I have MPL
    > forwarders in my flat and you have MPL forwarders in your flat.  How do
    > my forwarders know they belong to the MPL domain in my flat while your
    > forwarders know they belong to the MPL domain in your flat.  PAN ID
    > would be one way to make that differentation.

PANID is too restrictive in my opinion.

I may well have a radio networks on the first floor of my (penthouse) flat,
and another radio network on the second floor of my flat, connected by any
number of wired (ethernet) or higher-powered wireless (wifi) layer-2
technologies.  There are good radio reasons to use different PANIDs,
because the isolation might be inconsistent.  The devices which connect my
two floors know they are supposed to do that at the RPL level, and so
subnet is the right thing.

This is where we need to be prescriptive.

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Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works