Re: [Roll] Agenda for Monday (Re: MOP==7 live discussion )
Ines Robles <mariainesrobles@googlemail.com> Mon, 21 September 2020 13:40 UTC
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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 16:39:56 +0300
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Subject: Re: [Roll] Agenda for Monday (Re: MOP==7 live discussion )
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Hi, Questions tracked here: https://codimd.ietf.org/roll_MOP_20200921?both The 2 hours are reserved just in case, I hope everything is solved before the 2 hours :) br, Ines On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 4:34 PM Pascal Thubert (pthubert) < pthubert@cisco.com> wrote: > Hello Alvaro, > > > > I cannot believe we’ll need 2 hours. But certainly we can start with the > high level discussions on how this impacts the 3 drafts, before we dive in > how to treat RFC 8138 with MOP 7. > > > > Take care, > > > > Pascal > > > > *From:* Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com> > *Sent:* lundi 21 septembre 2020 14:51 > *To:* Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com>om>; roll@ietf.org; > Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>ca>; Ines Robles < > mariainesrobles@googlemail.com> > *Subject:* RE: Agenda for Monday (Re: MOP==7 live discussion ) > > > > Hi! > > > > I can’t stay the whole 2 hours…so I want to bash the agenda to add another > question at the top. > > > > () Should the MOP 7 Updates to rfc6550 be part of the turnon, > unaware-leaves, useofrplinfo drafts? I believe the answer is no, and I > would like to make the case on the call. > > > > > > BTW, on (3), unaware-leaves says that the RUL is not expected to support > rfc8138. Not expected is not the same as saying that they never will send > compressed data… > > > > Thanks! > > > > Alvaro. > > > > On September 21, 2020 at 7:22:26 AM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) ( > pthubert@cisco.com) wrote: > > All very good questions, Michael, > > And it seems that we are converging. > > I read the quasi-suggestion that we align the default for MOP 7 to whether > 6LoWPAN HC is running on the medium? Looks good. > > I have one last question, how does this discussion impact useofrpl and > unaware-leaves, since they both define flags in the RPL DODAG config > option. Should we converge the language? Do they all update RPL? > > Talk to you all in a few hours, > > Pascal > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> > > Sent: lundi 21 septembre 2020 02:31 > > To: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com>om>; roll@ietf.org; Ines > > Robles <mariainesrobles@googlemail.com>om>; Alvaro Retana > > <aretana.ietf@gmail.com> > > Subject: Agenda for Monday (Re: MOP==7 live discussion ) > > > > > > okay, here is my summary of the issues that are outstanding for > roll-turnon- > > rfc8138. > > I am writing this in the hope that I've captured everything. > > > > 1) Will RFC8138 be enabled for MOP==7? For what media? > > I see that my notion that it should be undefined is not reasonable, and > I > > step back from this. > > > > 2) In what way does the format of the DIO Base Object depend upon the > MOP > > value? It seems that we need to update 6550 to say something. > > > > 3) While RUL document mandates that RULs must support 8138, it is not > > clear to me if RULs can operate in a pre-8138 network. What if they > > send 8138 compression? > > It may be that none of the compressions that 8138 creates > > will ever be emitted by a RUL, since they are all about IPIP compression > > and RH3 compression, but I haven't checked. > > > > 4) we seem to be fine for 802.15.4 networks of all sorts. > > I suspect that we are okay for all the other layers (BTLE, DECT, BACnet) > > that leverage rfc4944 through the various upgrades. But, we are sure? > > What happens on devices with multiple interfaces of different types? > > Maybe this is an RFC8138 issue really. > > > > > > > > -- > > Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca> . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting > ) > > Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide > > > > > > > >
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