Re: [Roll] WGLC on draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138-04
Ines Robles <mariainesrobles@googlemail.com> Fri, 17 April 2020 16:46 UTC
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 19:46:01 +0300
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Subject: Re: [Roll] WGLC on draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138-04
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Hi Pascal, I agree with your suggestions, thank you very much for your fast response. I mentioned sybil attack just an example of a possible threat, just thinking, e.g. In a sybil attack, a malicious node might utilizes uses several RPL Instances to compromise the whole network. (I might be wrong). Anyway, I agree to stick with the security modes that you proposed. Have a great weekend and thanks, Ines. On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 7:13 PM Pascal Thubert (pthubert) < pthubert@cisco.com> wrote: > Dear Ines > > Many thanks for your comments and for shepherding this document! > > Please see below: > > > Since the document includes double RPL Instance scenario. Do you think > that security considerations should mention what security aspects involve > RPL multi-instance operation (e.g. sybil attacks, etc.)?. Maybe it would be > worthy to reminder that the security modes preinstalled or authenticated is > applicable also on multi-instances scenarios.? > > I'm unclear how sybil attacks would play there, please help me out if you > think that there's a relevant case here beyond the security mode > discussion. For that I suggest to add: > " > The 2 instances MUST be operated with the same security guarantees, > e.g., both "unsecured" with a lower layer security of a same > strength, both "preinstalled" or both "authenticated" security mode > (see section 3.2.3 of [RFC6550] for more details on those modes). > The latter mode could be use to enforce the segregation of updated > and non-updated nodes, by providing the keys for joining as routers > to the updated nodes only. > " > > > > Nits: The abstract does not mention explicitly that this draft updates > RFC6550 and RFC8138. It would be nice to state that on the abstract. > > Yes, what about: > " > This document updates RFC 8138 and RFC 6550 by defining a bit in the > RPL configuration option to indicate whether RFC 8138 compression is > used within the RPL Instance, and specify the behavior of RFC > 8138-capable nodes when the bit is set and reset. > > " > > Will that work? I'll publish as soon you give me your green light. > > > Many thanks again... keep safe and take care; > > > Pascal > > > [1] > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138/shepherdwriteup/ > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 5:38 PM <mailto:dominique.barthel@orange.com> > wrote: > Hello all, > > The WGLC for draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138 has been open since Feb 20th. > Since then, the draft has received reviews from Rahul and myself, which > lead the authors to publish –05 and –06. > We believe all the actionable comments have been addressed. > Therefore, the WGLC is now officially closed. > Inès has kindly volunteered to be the shepherd for this draft, and is > going to do her write-up before we release the document to our AD. > Thanks to her for taking up that role, and thanks to all of you for your > contributions! > > Dominique & Ines & Michael > > De : Roll <mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Dominique Barthel > <mailto:dominique.barthel@orange.com> > Répondre à : "mailto:roll@ietf.org" <mailto:roll@ietf.org> > Date : Friday 6 March 2020 12:08 > À : "mailto:roll@ietf.org" <mailto:roll@ietf.org> > Cc : "mailto:mariainesrobles@googlemail.com" <mailto: > mariainesrobles@googlemail.com> > Objet : Re: [Roll] WGLC on draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138-04 > > Working Group, > > The WGLC for draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138-04 was due to expire yesterday. > No comment was received so far. > Before we equate silence with agreement, please take some time to reflect > on this draft, maybe even review it and most importantly send your thoughts. > Simple responses like "yes", "I approve it" are valid, too. > As chairs, we need to gauge consensus. Please help us serving the > community. > Best regards > > Inès & Dominique > > De : "mailto:mariainesrobles@googlemail.com" <mailto: > mariainesrobles@googlemail.com> > Date : Thursday 20 February 2020 10:16 > À : "mailto:roll@ietf.org" <mailto:roll@ietf.org> > Cc : Dominique Barthel <mailto:dominique.barthel@orange.com> > Objet : WGLC on draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138-04 > > Dear all, > > This is a Working Group Last call for draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138-04 > > Please send your comments by 5th March 2020 > > Thank you very much in advance, > > Ines and Dominique. > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations > confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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- [Roll] WGLC on draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138-04 Ines Robles
- Re: [Roll] WGLC on draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138… dominique.barthel
- Re: [Roll] WGLC on draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138… Rahul Jadhav
- Re: [Roll] WGLC on draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] WGLC on draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] WGLC on draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138… Ines Robles
- Re: [Roll] WGLC on draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138… dominique.barthel
- Re: [Roll] WGLC on draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] WGLC on draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138… dominique.barthel
- Re: [Roll] WGLC on draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138… dominique.barthel
- Re: [Roll] WGLC on draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138… Ines Robles
- Re: [Roll] WGLC on draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] WGLC on draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138… Ines Robles
- Re: [Roll] WGLC on draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] WGLC on draft-ietf-roll-turnon-rfc8138… Ines Robles