Re: [Roll] Last Call: <draft-ietf-roll-terminology-12.txt> (Terminology in Low power And Lossy Networks) to Informational RFC

"JP Vasseur (jvasseur)" <jvasseur@cisco.com> Fri, 05 July 2013 06:40 UTC

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Dear SM,

Many thanks for your review - please see inline,

On Mar 31, 2013, at 3:57 AM, SM wrote:

> At 10:17 16-03-2013, The IESG wrote:
>> The IESG has received a request from the Routing Over Low power and Lossy
>> networks WG (roll) to consider the following document:
>> - 'Terminology in Low power And Lossy Networks'
>>  <draft-ietf-roll-terminology-12.txt> as Informational RFC
>> 
>> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
>> final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
>> ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-03-30. Exceptionally, comments may be
> 
> I took a quick look at the document.
> 
> In Section 2:
> 
>  "Thus in order to avoid confusion or discrepancies, this document
>   specifies the common terminology to be used in all ROLL
>   Working Group documents."
> 
> It may be better to define terminology for a technology and not for work within a working group only.
> 

JP> Yes I agree, although the scope may be a bit wide - that being said, since we started the document, terms such such Internet of Things
have been widely adopted and will help referring to a set of technologies, as opposed to a specific WG. By the way, you are right that these
terms are now use beyond the ROLL WG.

NEW: "Thus in order to avoid confusion or discrepancies, this document specifies the common terminology to be used in documents produced 
by Working Groups specifying solutions for the Internet of Things"

>  "This document should be listed as an informative reference."
> 
> As the document defines terminology it might have to be a normative reference in other documents.  It's easier to leave it to document authors to determine whether the reference should be normative or informative.

JP> Makes total sense, good catch.

> 
> In Section 2:
> 
>  'Downstream: Data direction traveling from outside of the LLN (e.g.
>   traffic coming from a LAN, WAN or the Internet) via a LBR, or in
>   general "deeper" in the Directed Acyclic Graph computed by the
>   routing protocol.'
> 
> LBR is in the next paragraph.  There are other such cases in draft-ietf-roll-terminology-12.
> 

JP> Yes but I don't think that this is an issue - there are cases where you even have unavoidable loops ;-)

> "Smart Grid: A Smart Grid is a broad class of applications to network
>  and automate utility infrastructure."
> 

JP> The term is purposely extremely generic and has been reviewed by various expert in the field in the WG.

Many Thanks for your comments.

JP.

> I suggest running this definition through the Smart Power Directorate to avoid any conflicting definition in future.
> 
> Regards,
> -sm 
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