Re: [Roll] Last Call: <draft-ietf-roll-terminology-12.txt> (Terminology in Low power And Lossy Networks) to Informational RFC
"JP Vasseur (jvasseur)" <jvasseur@cisco.com> Fri, 05 July 2013 06:40 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Roll] Last Call: <draft-ietf-roll-terminology-12.txt> (Terminology in Low power And Lossy Networks) to Informational RFC
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Dear SM, Many thanks for your review - please see inline, On Mar 31, 2013, at 3:57 AM, SM wrote: > At 10:17 16-03-2013, The IESG wrote: >> The IESG has received a request from the Routing Over Low power and Lossy >> networks WG (roll) to consider the following document: >> - 'Terminology in Low power And Lossy Networks' >> <draft-ietf-roll-terminology-12.txt> as Informational RFC >> >> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits >> final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the >> ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-03-30. Exceptionally, comments may be > > I took a quick look at the document. > > In Section 2: > > "Thus in order to avoid confusion or discrepancies, this document > specifies the common terminology to be used in all ROLL > Working Group documents." > > It may be better to define terminology for a technology and not for work within a working group only. > JP> Yes I agree, although the scope may be a bit wide - that being said, since we started the document, terms such such Internet of Things have been widely adopted and will help referring to a set of technologies, as opposed to a specific WG. By the way, you are right that these terms are now use beyond the ROLL WG. NEW: "Thus in order to avoid confusion or discrepancies, this document specifies the common terminology to be used in documents produced by Working Groups specifying solutions for the Internet of Things" > "This document should be listed as an informative reference." > > As the document defines terminology it might have to be a normative reference in other documents. It's easier to leave it to document authors to determine whether the reference should be normative or informative. JP> Makes total sense, good catch. > > In Section 2: > > 'Downstream: Data direction traveling from outside of the LLN (e.g. > traffic coming from a LAN, WAN or the Internet) via a LBR, or in > general "deeper" in the Directed Acyclic Graph computed by the > routing protocol.' > > LBR is in the next paragraph. There are other such cases in draft-ietf-roll-terminology-12. > JP> Yes but I don't think that this is an issue - there are cases where you even have unavoidable loops ;-) > "Smart Grid: A Smart Grid is a broad class of applications to network > and automate utility infrastructure." > JP> The term is purposely extremely generic and has been reviewed by various expert in the field in the WG. Many Thanks for your comments. JP. > I suggest running this definition through the Smart Power Directorate to avoid any conflicting definition in future. > > Regards, > -sm > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll