Re: [Roll] [6tisch] [6lo] FW: New Version Notification for draft-thubert-6lo-routing-dispatch-00.txt

Carsten Bormann <> Tue, 02 December 2014 05:41 UTC

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On 01 Dec 2014, at 20:20, James Woodyatt <> wrote:
> RFC 4944 is a Proposed Standard, which puts it into the same category as "Transmission of IPv6 Packets over Ethernet Networks" [RFC 2464], 

That argument would be more convincing if the situations were indeed comparable.

RFC 2464 is the basis for widely deployed plug-and-play interoperability.
*That* is what makes it mostly immutable, not the standards status.
(Which probably should be upgraded to match reality.)

With RFC 4944, we haven’t reached that level of interoperability yet.
In particular, there is *no* way to achieve out-of-the-box interoperability with the old mesh header — there is no defined way to use it, or even to find out that (and how) it should be used.
So you already have to add configuration (as in, "use mesh forwarding mechanism X") to use it.
Pascal’s proposal does not change this situation one iota: It doesn’t jeopardize interoperability where there was interoperability before.

(Note also that we already discarded LOWPAN_HC1 and LOWPAN_HC2 from RFC 4944 and replaced them with RFC 6282.)

Again, I believe we need to learn more about those reported usages of the old Mesh Header before we can meaningfully continue this argument.

Grüße, Carsten