Re: [Roll] "Charter inclusion: Work in RPL control messages: DIS - Roll Digest Vol 103, Issue 2

[Rahul Jadhav <[e-mail]>]

Hi William, 
Pls find my comments inline.

Regards,
Rahul

> On Aug 10, 2016, at 7:38 AM, William <[e-mail]> wrote:
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> In my opinion, the draft draft-jadhav-roll-no-path-dao-ps-01 is quite relevant.
> I am just not confident about the second draft draft-jadhav-roll-no-path-dao-ps-01. 

Is/Are there any specific point(s) you are not confident about?

> We have deployed a WSN for experiments, but have not paid attention to that no-path DAO problem, so I still confuse about the importance of the draft. 
> Jadhav and Cao, Have you implemented any testbeds for those cases written in the draft? Or do you have any paper analyzed those cases in more detail?

The current draft is a problem statement only draft which also addresses limitations of existing solutions. Let me give some background on how we ended up taking this problem statement more seriously … We are designing/implementing a solution and part of the solution depended upon how efficiently the routing tables are maintained or whether routing tables reflected the latest state of network topology (since decisions were to be made based upon how much a given router/6LR is loaded and one of the parameter is the routing table size of the 6LR).  We found that current route invalidation mechanism has limitations and the routing tables in most cases were carrying stale routes for a long time. We are currently working on a solution proposition to improvise on this.

> If yes, I would like to do some real experiments to evaluate the importance of the draft.
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> Kind regards,
> William
> PhD of Research
> IoT based Smart Furniture for Smart Home <http://cuddlyhomeadvisors.com/> Research Group
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>    1. Re: "Charter inclusion: Work in RPL control messages: DIS
>       Mod. - No-Path DAO" (Caozhen (zcao))
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>    3. Re: Roll ietf96 minutes (Ines Robles)
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> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 09:03:42 +0000
> From: "Caozhen (zcao)" <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>>
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> Subject: Re: [Roll] "Charter inclusion: Work in RPL control messages:
>                 DIS Mod. - No-Path DAO"
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> I would like to support both drafts (I am co-author of the second draft), they are certainly relevant to the wg. 
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> I can contribute the review of the draft-gundogan-roll-dis-modifications. 
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> -Zhen
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> > Subject: [Roll] "Charter inclusion: Work in RPL control messages: DIS 
> > Mod. - No-Path DAO"
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> > Dear all,
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> > Following the ROLL Meeting at IETF 96, we would like to know your 
> > opinion about the drafts, presented during IETF95 and IETF96. This is 
> > the first set of three emails. The adoption of drafts as WG drafts 
> > will be asked independently dependent on the status of the draft.
> > 
> > A: draft-gundogan-roll-dis-modifications-00
> >        DIS Modifications
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> > ?    Is the draft relevant to the working group.?
> > ?    Do you foresee to contribute to the work described in the draft ?
> > ?    Are you willing to review the draft ?
> > ?    Should the draft be rejected by the WG ?
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> > B: draft-jadhav-roll-no-path-dao-ps-01
> >        No-Path DAO Problem Statement
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> > ?    Is the draft relevant to the working group.?
> > ?    Do you foresee to contribute to the work described in the draft ?
> > ?    Are you willing to review the draft ?
> > ?    Should the draft be rejected by the WG ?
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> > It would be nice to know the reasons why you agree or disagree with 
> > the drafts
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> > Thank you very much,
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> > Peter and Ines
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> Dear all,
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> Many thanks to Dominique for the minutes.
> They have been uploaded.
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> There are a few speakers denoted with xxx, whose identity could not be determined.
> Also there is some text by Don and Pascal that has got lost.
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> Could these persons complement the information?
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> many thanks,
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> Peter, Ines.
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> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 16:22:23 +0300
> From: Ines  Robles <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>>
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> The minute can be found here
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> https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/minutes/minutes-96-roll <https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/minutes/minutes-96-roll>
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> Many thanks to Dominique again :-)
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> Peter, Ines.
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> 2016-08-04 14:56 GMT+03:00 peter van der Stok <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>>:
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> > Dear all,
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> > Many thanks to Dominique for the minutes.
> > They have been uploaded.
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> > There are a few speakers denoted with xxx, whose identity could not be
> > determined.
> > Also there is some text by Don and Pascal that has got lost.
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> > Could these persons complement the information?
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> > many thanks,
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> > Peter, Ines.
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