Re: [Roll] Interest in opportunistic routing?
Ines Robles <mariainesrobles@googlemail.com> Sat, 08 March 2014 16:20 UTC
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From: Ines Robles <mariainesrobles@googlemail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Roll] Interest in opportunistic routing?
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Hi Simon, Thank you very much for share ORPL with us. I think it would be good to present it in the plugfests in next IETFs, in case that it takes place. The plugfest for this last IETF [ http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/slides/slides-89-6tisch-0.pdf] starting in slide 65. Kind Regards, Ines. 2014-03-07 15:17 GMT-03:00 Simon Duquennoy <simonduq@sics.se>: > As a complement: > * a visualization of ORPL during a 60-minute run: > http://simonduquennoy.net/resources/orpl-animation.html > * the slides of the SenSys'13 presentation: > http://simonduquennoy.net/resources/131111-oprl-sensys.pptx > > Thanks, > Simon > > > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Simon Duquennoy <simonduq@sics.se> wrote: > >> Dear Pascal, >> >> AFAICT it does go along the same lines as Quentin's work. The main >> difference is that we support addressable nodes, i.e. not only upwards but >> also downwards routing. >> >> As you're asking for more, let me elaborate a bit on how I see our >> protocol (ORPL) integrated in RPL :) >> * routing decision (assuming storing mode): the forwarding decision is >> made at the receiver, not at the sender. Upon receiving a packet, a node >> decides whether to forward it based on (1) its rank and (2) the inclusion >> of the destination IPv6 address into its routing table. >> - If the packet is going up and the node has a lower rank then it will >> forward with upwards anycast. >> - If the packet is going up or down and the node has a higher rank, and >> the destination IPv6 address is in the routing table (i.e. the destination >> is below in the DODAG) then it will forward with downwards anycast. >> One interesting thing is any-to-any routing is that ORPL has many more >> common ancestors to use than RPL. In our experiments, any-to-any routing is >> where the benefits of ORPL are most significant, with the latency between >> leaf nodes improved with a factor up to 15 (case where RPL has a common >> ancestor several hops away whereas ORPL exploits many ancestors closer to >> the source and destination). >> * routing tables: the standard RPL tables will do. It is however worth >> noting that because anycast transmission do not target a specific receiver, >> all we need at every node is not a full routing table (<destination,next >> hop> pairs) but only a set of reachable destinations. This makes the table >> potentially more compact. In the paper we investigate fancy structures for >> this such as Bloom filter but I regard this as out of the scope for a >> potential integration in standard RPL. >> * routing metric: ORPL can work with any routing metric, the only >> requirement is to have a DODAG. In the SenSys'13 paper we use our own >> metric, which is opportunistic routing-oriented. It helps but isn't >> strictly required (could possibly be the object of a separate draft) >> >> Regarding performance: our testbed experiments are on duty-cycled >> 802.15.4 nodes. We get great reliability. In the current implementation of >> ORPL (posterior to the paper) we have most of the runs with 100% delivery >> ratio (about 1500 packets sent and received end-to-end during the course of >> an hour). The reason is that ORPL is not affected at all by isolated link >> losses. It doesn't even notice it. If the link a parent is dead for some >> time then another parent will forward the packet. The other side benefits >> are latency and energy: when having duty cycled nodes, anycast nicely uses >> the first that wakes up and gets the packet successfully, making the wakeup >> procedure cheaper. A final note: opportunistic routing is great especially >> in dense environments, as there are more links to exploit. In sparser >> environments, as far as we have observed, the benefits reduce but are still >> present. >> >> The SenSys'13 paper contains a detailed design and thorough experimental >> evaluation: >> http://www.simonduquennoy.net/papers/duquennoy13orpl.pdf >> >> If you want to know even more, I'm open to having a phone call. >> >> Best, >> Simon >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) < >> pthubert@cisco.com> wrote: >> >>> I'd love to hear more. This work reminds me of interesting Results >>> Quentin showed at his PhD... >>> >>> Pascal >>> >>> Le 7 mars 2014 à 14:47, "Simon Duquennoy" <simonduq@sics.se> a écrit : >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Michael Richardson < >>> mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Simon Duquennoy <simonduq@sics.se> wrote: >>>> > We have designed an opportunistic extension of RPL, where the >>>> basic idea is to >>>> > exploit all links of the DODAG rather than the tree defined by >>>> links to >>>> > preferred parents. We do this using anycast: transmissions are >>>> intended either >>>> > (upwards) to any parent or (downwards) to any child having the >>>> destination >>>> > below in the DODAG. >>>> >>>> This is very interesting. >>>> >>>> > We have a working prototype [1] in Contiki that we evaluated >>>> thoroughly in a >>>> > 135-node testbed [2]. In a 4-min packet interval data collection, >>>> we increase >>>> > the reliability of RPL from 97.4 to 99.5%, while halving the >>>> latency (below >>>> > 0.5s) and radio duty cycle (below 0.5%). >>>> >>>> > If there is interest, we can come up with a simplified version of >>>> the design >>>> > presented in the paper, and propose a way to integrate it in RPL >>>> through only a >>>> > few minor additions. To be more specific, the simplified version >>>> would use the >>>> > existing RPL routing tables rather than Bloom filters, and would >>>> be MAC-layer >>>> > agnostic (the only assumption being that the MAC layer supports >>>> > anycast). >>>> >>>> I'm not familliar with the concept of anycast at layer-2. >>>> I think that ethernet supports this, but that actually one would have >>>> the >>>> multicast bit set. I think that you'd have to do the same thing on >>>> 802.11. >>>> I guess that 15.4 has a specific support for this, or is just a choice >>>> of a >>>> particular unicast mac? >>>> >>> >>> Dear Michael, all, >>> >>> There is no specific support for anycast in 802.15.4, but the standard >>> MAC layers can easily be used for anycast (often by setting >>> multicast/broadcast + ACK bits). >>> I've see prototypes for 802.15.4 beacon-enabled [1], for a 15.4e >>> RIT-like MAC [2], and for a CSL-like MAC (our own implementation uses >>> ContikiMAC, which is similar CSL). >>> Should also be possible with 15.4 TSCH or even 802.11 PSM. >>> Doing this on an always-on link like ethernet or traditional 802.11 is >>> more tricky because you need an agreement procedure so that only one >>> neighbor that received the packet forwards it. There exist solutions for >>> WiFi, such as ExOR [3], which introduced opportunistic for 802.11 back in >>> 2005. I don't think we want to go into this though; I'd rather simply >>> stipulate that anycast is required at the MAC layer and possibly give some >>> hints on how to support it on the most common MAC protocols. >>> >>> Best, >>> Simon >>> >>> [1] >>> http://clarinet.u-strasbg.fr/~theoleyre/uploads/Publis/pavkovic11rpl.pdf >>> [2] http://www.ti5.tuhh.de/publications/2012/EWSN12_Orinoco.pdf >>> [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExOR_(wireless_network_protocol) >>> >>> >>>> -- >>>> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works >>>> IETF ROLL WG co-chair. http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/roll/charter/ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Roll mailing list >>>> Roll@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Roll mailing list >>> Roll@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Roll mailing list >>> Roll@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll >>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > >
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